I couldn’t help but notice that the mainstream media is upset that going forward the fall COVID 19 booster might require randomized trials measuring clinical endpoints, rather than allowing Peter Marks to pick a variant target (based on an analogy to him buying milk) and then generate antibodies against the target.
This is overdue. Rubber stamping annual covid boosters has no scientific, medical, or public rationale. No one know if this approach is "safe and effective." Time to find out.
Amen! I simply do not understand why there even is a Covid booster still being pushed when there are no longer bad outcomes for any populations, especially for the pediatric population who are at lowest risk. I can see NO other explanation than greed and corruption, especially with you being able to point out why randomized trials are indeed doable, and how differently other countries treat covid now. Thank you, Vinay!
And thousands die of influenza each year. I think one question might be related to the health status of the individuals who have died prior to contracting COVID. I suspect one of the reasons some are fighting this is the very real fear that these “vaccines “ may prove to have negative efficacy as the current flu vaccine did. This outcome would not surprise me at all.
They do. But to say there are no longer bad outcomes for any populations is untrue. There can be bad outcomes for anything. I got three vaccines and regret them. My quibble was the notion that COVID isn’t serious for some people.
True! I would even go further and say that COVID isn’t serious for most people. There’s a very small subset of the population for whom the virus may be serious.
I actually think it may have been slightly more serious in the beginning but not much. I think the treatments such as ventilators and drugs that made it worse in the beginning. Also the numbers weren’t accurate so we’ll never know for sure. I had a patient population of approximately 2000 and my business partner had the same. Our population spanned every age group and we did not have one patient die from COVID. My mother lives in a large neighborhood populated with mainly seniors and not one died from COVID. Those are only my personal observations but I think the media and our government led by Fauci, Collin’s, Birx, et al, fed us exactly what they wanted us to in order to generate our opinions. I’m very skeptical.
I believe testing is unethical. The vaccine has been demonstrated by a wealth of clinical evidence to do more harm than good. Recruiting people into a trial for a poison is not medicine, not healthcare, and not ethical. Testing should be restricted to products that have face validity as being safe, and reasonable chance of being effective.
Funny, I checked out that link about narcolepsy, and in that article they 1. acknowledge that this particular flu vaccine causes narcolepsy in some people and 2. Infection with this flu causes worse narcolepsy, ergo it’s more important than ever to get the vaccine. They just cannot admit a single drawback to a single vaccine!
I'm with you on #5, but the rationale for caring about efficacy and safety is simply that: caring about efficacy and safety of a product administered to humans, including many healthy humans. Nobody says, "We should do effiacy studies on cancer drugs" with the reason being "to generate trust in chemotherapy." The reason is that people should not take (and should not pay for) unsafe, ineffective drugs.
Fact Check: American people are ready and willing to inject and/swallow a laundry list of unproven “vaccines” “medications” especially if say Fauci tells them to— or conversely, if Trump tells them not to take whatever the snake oil —
The current approach makes little sense. Assuming it's a good idea to choose speed over a trial, why then choose a mutation to target in May and release it in September (after a Covid outbreak in August)?
What about the strong recommendation to give every woman a Covid booster during each pregnancy? Not long ago they got none. Now we are up to giving a flu and RSV vaccine each pregnancy if in season, along with Tdap and Covid each pregnancy with no season. Covid vaccine was never even tested in pregnant women yet CDC pushed it and pregnant health care workers lost jobs over it.
I almost forgot, another little tidbit about fake science regarding the famous MUDerna, makers of your vaccine. The so called "scientists" at MUDerna got suckered by that solulink crew in San Diego with their unstable so called "linker" that no one else wanted to sell. Their business guy would walk around rubbing his hands bragging about how much money they were making selling anhydrous DMF, only one problem, they weren't preparing their little vials of DMF under what are considered anhydrous conditions, ripping everyone off, including a lot of Thermo customers.
But wait there's more, after solulink shut down the NIH gave this con artist a big grant!
This is overdue. Rubber stamping annual covid boosters has no scientific, medical, or public rationale. No one know if this approach is "safe and effective." Time to find out.
Amen! I simply do not understand why there even is a Covid booster still being pushed when there are no longer bad outcomes for any populations, especially for the pediatric population who are at lowest risk. I can see NO other explanation than greed and corruption, especially with you being able to point out why randomized trials are indeed doable, and how differently other countries treat covid now. Thank you, Vinay!
People still die of Covid. I would consider those deaths bad outcomes. Unfortunately, the vaccine does not seem to prevent them.
And thousands die of influenza each year. I think one question might be related to the health status of the individuals who have died prior to contracting COVID. I suspect one of the reasons some are fighting this is the very real fear that these “vaccines “ may prove to have negative efficacy as the current flu vaccine did. This outcome would not surprise me at all.
They do. But to say there are no longer bad outcomes for any populations is untrue. There can be bad outcomes for anything. I got three vaccines and regret them. My quibble was the notion that COVID isn’t serious for some people.
True! I would even go further and say that COVID isn’t serious for most people. There’s a very small subset of the population for whom the virus may be serious.
was that the case at first when there was no exposure to it tho? it was serious for a lot more people wasn't it?
I actually think it may have been slightly more serious in the beginning but not much. I think the treatments such as ventilators and drugs that made it worse in the beginning. Also the numbers weren’t accurate so we’ll never know for sure. I had a patient population of approximately 2000 and my business partner had the same. Our population spanned every age group and we did not have one patient die from COVID. My mother lives in a large neighborhood populated with mainly seniors and not one died from COVID. Those are only my personal observations but I think the media and our government led by Fauci, Collin’s, Birx, et al, fed us exactly what they wanted us to in order to generate our opinions. I’m very skeptical.
"Folks [ who want vax w/o trials ] are anti-vaccine, anti-science, and pro-corporate"
But they are pro-virtue signaling to the Leftist's tribe...which really is the most important part.
Also, I'm SHOCKED that there are that many people still taking the shots.
We still need placebo control trials of all childhood vaccines. And the childhood vaccine schedule needs to be studied.
I believe testing is unethical. The vaccine has been demonstrated by a wealth of clinical evidence to do more harm than good. Recruiting people into a trial for a poison is not medicine, not healthcare, and not ethical. Testing should be restricted to products that have face validity as being safe, and reasonable chance of being effective.
Interesting point but participation would be voluntary. I agree with you but how else will this question and others be answered?
Well said! But WHY aren't these shots OFF the childhood schedule ALREADY?
Funny, I checked out that link about narcolepsy, and in that article they 1. acknowledge that this particular flu vaccine causes narcolepsy in some people and 2. Infection with this flu causes worse narcolepsy, ergo it’s more important than ever to get the vaccine. They just cannot admit a single drawback to a single vaccine!
I'm with you on #5, but the rationale for caring about efficacy and safety is simply that: caring about efficacy and safety of a product administered to humans, including many healthy humans. Nobody says, "We should do effiacy studies on cancer drugs" with the reason being "to generate trust in chemotherapy." The reason is that people should not take (and should not pay for) unsafe, ineffective drugs.
like sacubitril for instance
six things big pharma doesn't want you to know, by doctors without borders.
I think Oatmilk injections will keep people from getting Covid, and I don’t see any reason why we should test my hypothesis.
Fact Check: American people are ready and willing to inject and/swallow a laundry list of unproven “vaccines” “medications” especially if say Fauci tells them to— or conversely, if Trump tells them not to take whatever the snake oil —
how can you really run a clinical trial on a flo vaccine?
The current approach makes little sense. Assuming it's a good idea to choose speed over a trial, why then choose a mutation to target in May and release it in September (after a Covid outbreak in August)?
What about the strong recommendation to give every woman a Covid booster during each pregnancy? Not long ago they got none. Now we are up to giving a flu and RSV vaccine each pregnancy if in season, along with Tdap and Covid each pregnancy with no season. Covid vaccine was never even tested in pregnant women yet CDC pushed it and pregnant health care workers lost jobs over it.
I almost forgot, another little tidbit about fake science regarding the famous MUDerna, makers of your vaccine. The so called "scientists" at MUDerna got suckered by that solulink crew in San Diego with their unstable so called "linker" that no one else wanted to sell. Their business guy would walk around rubbing his hands bragging about how much money they were making selling anhydrous DMF, only one problem, they weren't preparing their little vials of DMF under what are considered anhydrous conditions, ripping everyone off, including a lot of Thermo customers.
But wait there's more, after solulink shut down the NIH gave this con artist a big grant!