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Adrian Gaty's avatar

Exactly. But don’t worry too much about them, they’re not arguing in good faith, they never do. I remember when the AAP, in lecturing tones, told us all that there was absolutely zero evidence that masking babies and masking their caregivers would pose any harm to their social/emotional/language development. You see, studies hadn’t been done on it! But of course they didn’t give a damn that no studies had been done on giving COVID shots to 6 month olds when they lectured us to do that. It’s all groupthink and lies and bad faith. Enjoy the real food!

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Adrian Gaty's avatar

True story, see comments below the post, I had a doctor arguing with me that masking kids is fine because Muslims wear hijabs and their kids still learn to speak. I bet you that doctor thinks beef tallow is for weirdos though.

https://gaty.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-studies

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TerriM's avatar

Only 1/2 of the muslims wear hijabs. The women. So now we're just saying that kids can learn to speak well if the men's faces are uncovered. ok sure.

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Helen Reich's avatar

I agree with you, but in this case, it sounds like pretty much nobody is arguing in good faith, as most nutritional studies are kind of bad, or at least insufficient to answer our questions.

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TOB's avatar

I probably could not love this post any more than I do. It is hard to find a restaurant that I enjoy as much as the real food I make in my own home, and when I do find it, it costs a lot more than I want to spend.

My dad explained to me when I was much younger that we weren't going to buy the rBST milk, because it wasn't his job to help dairy companies be more profitable. I've stuck to that principle. There is no reason to eat gas station "food," and even less reason to pay up for it.

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Marianne's avatar

Very timely article! Thank you! People have no clue what to eat including their doctors. RFK, Jr. is trying but he is still being attacked at every opportunity. The fact that you use lard or tallow will help a lot of people with their misconceptions. Onward and upward!

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NoraTC's avatar

Eat food, not too much. If your great grandmother wouldn't recognize it as food, you shouldn't either. I first learned this long enough ago that the reference generation was my grandmother, but I am now a grandmother. My own addition is to eat the rainbow, in season.

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Swenson, Peter's avatar

Fine, I agree, but can you say anything negative about RFK Jr.? He's overall a chaotic, ineffectual disrupter and divider, not a reformer. Just like his junk food eating boss. Any complaints about Trump? What about the public health consequences of impending economic crisis and drill-baby-drill, burn-baby-burn? What do your (possible) kids and future grandkids think of global warming and extreme weather? Jes' sayin'.

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SilverEarring's avatar

I would love to hear Vinay's views on RFK's announcement last week that he's going to have the answer to what the cause of autism is in...wait for it...September!! I cannot wait.

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Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

I think he said that because he already has an answer and would like this time to check everything and organize the press packages. Looking forward to hearing what he has to say.

I think he’s been doing a fantastic job. He’s only beginning his term and has to walk a very fine line as apparently he still doesn’t have a complete team since there are several more people requiring senate confirmation and he’s dealing with Cassidy (who receives significant money from pharmaceutical companies)and others who aren’t on board with his agenda.

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SilverEarring's avatar

Except he said "a massive testing and research effort with100s of international scientists" which does not = reviewing the literature and summarizing what's already been done (but that's what I expect him to do). I also expect him to cherry pick studies that support his claim, while ignoring studies that do not....but we only have 5 months to wait for this important unveiling so I'll be patient.

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Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Could be. I’ll remain hopeful and reserve judgment until Vinay and others weigh in on the evidence presented. I find it difficult to believe the put a date out there that’s in the not too distant future without already knowing at least basically what he will say. Maybe the studies will attempt to reproduce other studies which is key according to Vinay. Apparently many of our accepted as true research is not reproducible.

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Swenson, Peter's avatar

MAHA, ha ha. Don't hold your breath! I wonder if brainworms cause assholeism.

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Marius Clore's avatar

Interesting to note, and I'm sure you haven't realized, that the frequency and svereity of so-called extreme events has been decreasing and not increasing. So basically you have just bought hook, line and sinker into nonsense propaganda. Of course the climate has warmed a little since 1850 which marks the beginning of the end of the little ice age. In the very recent past (in geological terms) the earth also warmed during the medieval, roman and minoan warm periods. What exactly is the big deal. Don't tell me you could feel a 1 degree difference in average temperature because I guarantee you that you couldn't.

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SilverEarring's avatar

What does this have to do with my post?

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Marius Clore's avatar

It was a reply to Peter Swenson's comment

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Swenson, Peter's avatar

All false and nonsense.

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Marius Clore's avatar

And what exactly is false and nonsense in what I said. Perhaps look up the NOAA and NASA databases. What I said is absolutely correct and accurate.

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Swenson, Peter's avatar

Rather not debate an insulting person. "Swallowed hook, line, and sinker." Maybe you've done the same. I have data too..e.g., on extreme weather and rapid temp rise. Prehistoric events irrelevant. Doesn't matter I can't perceive 1 degree rise. Totally irrelevant. Also that's an average. Hotter at the poles.

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SilverEarring's avatar

"Floppy and lifeless" are not words I'd use to describe McDonald's fries - probably the GOAT if there ever was one.

What's bothering me the most about RFK and his team is that he's working around the edges when he focuses on things like oils, food dyes, preservatives, etc. These are NOT what's caused record-breaking obesity, and it's making him an easy target for criticism. What I'd like to see is what his overarching strategy is to address the obesity/sickness problem....changing from processed oils to tallow ain't it.

But we will all be rewarded in September when RFK pulls a rabbit out of his hat and announces to the world he's found the cause of autism....can't wait...although I'm sure we can guess now what the answer will be.

I was a big RFK skeptic and haven't seen much yet to change my mind.

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Stephen Brackett's avatar

100 bucks, 4 bags of groceries, get home, still don't have anything to eat, how does that keep happening?

If you want to eat good home cooked food, lots of it for low cost find one of those Indian truck stop food places. There's one close by, 14 bucks all you can eat, no processed food, all home cooked, just don't eat too much Kheer

what do you get at that fast food giants for $14? razor thin burger patties, synthetic potatoes sticks?

look at the contrast.

these mega fast food monopolies are wealth transfer making people sick, they should pay like big tobacco

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TOB's avatar

We were "getting middled" until I discovered the local small natural food store, where organic produce costs literally 1/10 to 1/3 what Publix charges. One hundred fifty will basically fill a large reusable bag with only stuff we actually eat. Also, I write what I need on th back of my hand, and I only take a basket, not a cart. Nothing I don't need ends up in the basket. (I buy paper products elsewhere.)

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Robert H Lopez-Santini's avatar

I read over 35 yrs ago someone saying about all the wellness and fad diets that one day we would have people dying of nothing. What’s in a proper diet ? Whatever doesn’t fit through a feeding tube !!!! No one said at the end of life that they would love to have one more protein bar with a glass of almond milk or a kombucha. Treat yourself as if you were receiving hospice care ….. because we all are

Do make sensible choices and decisions, based on Sensible Medicine and Science. just don’t make it a mandate and the only way to whatever is the goal. Embrace different points of view.

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Marius Clore's avatar

Spot on Vinay. What is required is a hefty dose of common sense on the part of our elites. Not just that but the majority of our elites are incorrigibly hypocritical. i.e. they will restrict their shopping to Organic Produce sold at places like Whole Foods, but will encourage the so-called "deplorables" to eat patently garbage products with garbage ingredients.

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Julia's avatar

OK, don’t put processed food in your mouth, but go ahead and shoot up with heroin and then get some kind of fake tan or something so that your color is not right and then make sure your wife has a bunch of Botox and filler in her face because all that must be fine because you’re rich And everyone knows it rich people and thin people are morally better than the rest of us.

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ADWH's avatar

Right? He’s probably the last person I would take health advice from.

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Bernard Cleyet's avatar

The claim is the French paradox is the chemicals. But studies show insufficient. Then I read an account of a US visiting a French lab and the one hour lunches. I think that’s it which happen to include a glass of wine!

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Joan Breibart's avatar

All these wellness bitches coming up with substitutions and swaps is just to distract people from the size of the bodies. Most Americans always had very limited pallets even in the 80s most Americans had never tasted a real cup of coffee and just drank what would be called brown water, some instant with some hot water in it. This is not Europe where there's been centuries of refined cuisine or in Asia where color and texture is important. It doesn't matter though because clearly America is not gonna be great again not sure when it was. It's still the riches and has the biggest military, but it's in decline and will continue and even if it could be stopped generation Z is incompetent and everyone knows they could never take charge in a very complex society.

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Jane Geraci's avatar

I really appreciate this essay. Most of what I know about healthy eating has come from being a serious “dieter”in the last 3 1/2 years, after I was red-pilled on all of the Covid nonsense and determined I really needed to be more healthy so I could better handle the illness if I got it. One thing I believe is that in America the food industry promoted eating as a pasttime or sport. This has been to the detriment of our health in my opinion. I feel we should eat to maintain our bodies, and we should also break bread with our fellow humans.

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RoseyT's avatar

"sad polymer". Would be a great name for some tribute band.

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Mark Brody's avatar

When it comes to burden of "proof", there are no proofs outside of mathematics, so proving anything in the health burden becomes an impossibly high hurdle to get over. Good for business! However, when "proof" of safety is required of the manufacturers of fake food, they are quick to cry foul. It's heads I win, tails you lose to them. These fake food scientists are well-paid shills for the industries they represent. They aren't fooling anyone, except for the government, if you call bribery "fooling".

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Joan Breibart's avatar

Most Americans are obese 65% and another 10% heading there as for the 25% remaining too many of them are wellness bitches with eating disorders. Nobody expires to eat healthy who has any taste or sophistication adults are not growing vertically so nutrition is so overvalued, especially here when most of the food has no taste and thus minimal nutrition blindfolded most people wouldn't know what they're eating, but of course they have a lot of angst when they see it and that leaves them to binge there's only one way to eat, which is very broadly. Never leaving out anything that is appealing and tasty and of course 80Bites a day is maximum and only within meals. That is the only way to eat.

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