This is authorized under the Emergency Use Authorization. One may make this case three years ago, but now?? Where's the emergency? Of course, we know this grants immunity to pharma. The FDA and CDC are laughably ridiculous.
They deserve every criticism of malfeasance, regulatory capture, and pseudoscience thrown at them.
You raise a good point about EUA...I wonder if Flu vaccines are also approved each year under the same reg? Quick google search says Yes, but didn't do deep dive.
I see the Clown $hit Show continues. Thought I could get off by now...but I guess not. I'm ashamed there are this many stupid people. And the nice little lemon juice on the paper cut is the fact that they are still touting Emergency Use Authorization.
Some months ago, I said this to my functional and integrative medicine doctor: “I’ve had a total of four Covid shots. I had Covid last September, after I came back from France on almost no sleep. I had four days of very mild cold symptoms and slightly elevated body temperatures. I’m now over 65, but I don’t think I fall into the frail and elderly category. Is it still important to get annual boosters?” She replied sheepishly, “No?” Then she went on to say, “Let’s put it this way: personally, I’m not getting any more boosters until there’s good evidence that the benefits outweigh the potential harms.” She and I are close in age. I was really glad that we were on the same page about it, and I wish others would discuss booster decisions with their doctors. I know that not all doctors agree, but I’ve read that medicine is supposed to be individualized.
In addition to not disclosing his conflict of interest, Dr. Vinay Gupta has violated the medical practices act in recommending treatment to someone who is not his patient. His response should have been “please check with your physician”.
Malpractice, unethical, and immoral.
YES! Bring on the RCT’s, we are 3 years past time.
This is a great parade of posts about the absolute nonsense being promulgated by CDC. The sad thing is, still too many vulnerable people listen to them and their garbage recommendations.
I am a retired MD. I am also elderly. and like others must rely on recommendations. A question: we do not have RCTs for the flu vaccine and yet it is widely sought after. Why it is imperative that we have RCTs for Covid boosters for each iteration of this vaccine?
You bring up my question. Just why DON’T we have RCTs for flu vaccine? If it’s so effective, why not evaluate just how effective it’s likely to be, and which group benefits most? I think taxpayers who pay dearly for all this deserve at least that.
At this point we need to have at least one RCT for both flu and covid vaccines. To proceed without testing is simply irresponsible.
I don’t think flu vaccines are very effective. Great topic for Vinay to discuss. Don’t the pharmaceutical companies guess which variant will be most prevalent and make the vaccine to combat that, at a fairly low success rate?
I'm about to turn 77 and never had a flu shot nor the flu, to my knowledge. I live in New England and mingle with crowds as much as anyone. Not getting flu shots has been effective for me.
I believe, but defer to Dr. Prasad, that for the original approval, RCTs are done, but for subsequent variations for each year (and really, Flu and Covid are the only ones that fall into this category), they only do PRECLINICAL testing to determine if the vaccine reduces the infectious burden in a cell culture of whatever the test is.
I read an article in the MSM a few days ago lamenting the uptick in hospitalizations for/with covid and the decrease in vaccinations (the premise was these two things are causally related). I'm a practicing internist. I have no idea what to recommend re: covid vaccines, but if I was a public health official and I really believed that covid vaccines decrease bad outcomes, I would specifically recommend it in the group that is most likely to have bad outcomes. The blanket "everyone over 6 mos" recommendation will only decrease uptake. TARGETED outreach to those most likely to benefit if PH 101. It's shocking how bad these people are at their jobs (and common sense).
Scott Gottlieb was on CBS This Morning and ALSO was giving advice on when to get it...."I'd wait til October-ish, if you've had covid in the last few months, blah, blah". Dr. Gottlieb of course, is one of Pfizer's BODs. No conflict there (CBS thinks because they mentioned his board position, that it's 'full disclosure'...SURE). He did also mention that uptake (in the past) has been low, particularly among children - GOOD. He mentioned that CVS doc-in-the-box does't given vaccines to kids and Peds aren't carrying it because so few are getting it. Wha-whaaaaa!
FDA and CDC seem determined to eliminate the last vestiges of trust in the US vaccine approval and recommendation process. If not for this serious adverse effect, the situation would be comical. They told us in 2021 that 2 shots for everyone would end the pandemic. Now it's shots every 6-12 months for everyone in perpetuity . . .
Vinay, I'd suggest you check with your own colleague on this. I'm not sure whether he's advocating only for at-risk populations or everybody, but he's advocating the booster. From Wall Street Journal 8/23/24: "Doctors say everyone who is eligible should get a shot. But older people who have skipped other recent vaccine updates should especially consider it.
'I saw a lot of people in the hospital who got a lot of shots in the beginning of the pandemic and then didn’t get any shots for a year or two years,' said Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, a professor of medicine at University of California-San Francisco and an infectious-disease specialist.
This is authorized under the Emergency Use Authorization. One may make this case three years ago, but now?? Where's the emergency? Of course, we know this grants immunity to pharma. The FDA and CDC are laughably ridiculous.
They deserve every criticism of malfeasance, regulatory capture, and pseudoscience thrown at them.
You raise a good point about EUA...I wonder if Flu vaccines are also approved each year under the same reg? Quick google search says Yes, but didn't do deep dive.
Sing it! It was the first thing I noticed.
A litany of malfeasance. And yes, Mandy Cohen and Rochelle Walensky are the 2 most unethical, dishonest, and captured CDC directors of all time.
Combined with a White House Science Advisor who doesn't know what a woman is (Arati Prabhakar) we have a true Hall of Shame.
I see the Clown $hit Show continues. Thought I could get off by now...but I guess not. I'm ashamed there are this many stupid people. And the nice little lemon juice on the paper cut is the fact that they are still touting Emergency Use Authorization.
Some months ago, I said this to my functional and integrative medicine doctor: “I’ve had a total of four Covid shots. I had Covid last September, after I came back from France on almost no sleep. I had four days of very mild cold symptoms and slightly elevated body temperatures. I’m now over 65, but I don’t think I fall into the frail and elderly category. Is it still important to get annual boosters?” She replied sheepishly, “No?” Then she went on to say, “Let’s put it this way: personally, I’m not getting any more boosters until there’s good evidence that the benefits outweigh the potential harms.” She and I are close in age. I was really glad that we were on the same page about it, and I wish others would discuss booster decisions with their doctors. I know that not all doctors agree, but I’ve read that medicine is supposed to be individualized.
In addition to not disclosing his conflict of interest, Dr. Vinay Gupta has violated the medical practices act in recommending treatment to someone who is not his patient. His response should have been “please check with your physician”.
Malpractice, unethical, and immoral.
YES! Bring on the RCT’s, we are 3 years past time.
And it’s not considered misinformation which / well, doesn’t surprise me one bit sadly.
This is a great parade of posts about the absolute nonsense being promulgated by CDC. The sad thing is, still too many vulnerable people listen to them and their garbage recommendations.
Scientific consensus doesn’t need data anymore; evidence is mal-information
I am a retired MD. I am also elderly. and like others must rely on recommendations. A question: we do not have RCTs for the flu vaccine and yet it is widely sought after. Why it is imperative that we have RCTs for Covid boosters for each iteration of this vaccine?
You bring up my question. Just why DON’T we have RCTs for flu vaccine? If it’s so effective, why not evaluate just how effective it’s likely to be, and which group benefits most? I think taxpayers who pay dearly for all this deserve at least that.
At this point we need to have at least one RCT for both flu and covid vaccines. To proceed without testing is simply irresponsible.
I don’t think flu vaccines are very effective. Great topic for Vinay to discuss. Don’t the pharmaceutical companies guess which variant will be most prevalent and make the vaccine to combat that, at a fairly low success rate?
I'm about to turn 77 and never had a flu shot nor the flu, to my knowledge. I live in New England and mingle with crowds as much as anyone. Not getting flu shots has been effective for me.
I believe, but defer to Dr. Prasad, that for the original approval, RCTs are done, but for subsequent variations for each year (and really, Flu and Covid are the only ones that fall into this category), they only do PRECLINICAL testing to determine if the vaccine reduces the infectious burden in a cell culture of whatever the test is.
"Boosters"....sigh.
Code word for barely sentient dysgenics, to feel better as they have another shot...and another and another..forever..
I read an article in the MSM a few days ago lamenting the uptick in hospitalizations for/with covid and the decrease in vaccinations (the premise was these two things are causally related). I'm a practicing internist. I have no idea what to recommend re: covid vaccines, but if I was a public health official and I really believed that covid vaccines decrease bad outcomes, I would specifically recommend it in the group that is most likely to have bad outcomes. The blanket "everyone over 6 mos" recommendation will only decrease uptake. TARGETED outreach to those most likely to benefit if PH 101. It's shocking how bad these people are at their jobs (and common sense).
Scott Gottlieb was on CBS This Morning and ALSO was giving advice on when to get it...."I'd wait til October-ish, if you've had covid in the last few months, blah, blah". Dr. Gottlieb of course, is one of Pfizer's BODs. No conflict there (CBS thinks because they mentioned his board position, that it's 'full disclosure'...SURE). He did also mention that uptake (in the past) has been low, particularly among children - GOOD. He mentioned that CVS doc-in-the-box does't given vaccines to kids and Peds aren't carrying it because so few are getting it. Wha-whaaaaa!
As soon as I see EUA I have learned to RUN. Away.
FDA and CDC seem determined to eliminate the last vestiges of trust in the US vaccine approval and recommendation process. If not for this serious adverse effect, the situation would be comical. They told us in 2021 that 2 shots for everyone would end the pandemic. Now it's shots every 6-12 months for everyone in perpetuity . . .
Pease, when yu link to a study, make the link clickable, so I can copy and paste into a browser.
The links in this post are not clickable; I had to type them by hand.
Keep hammering Dr. P🔨🔨🔨 thank you for speaking up 🙌🏻
Vinay, I'd suggest you check with your own colleague on this. I'm not sure whether he's advocating only for at-risk populations or everybody, but he's advocating the booster. From Wall Street Journal 8/23/24: "Doctors say everyone who is eligible should get a shot. But older people who have skipped other recent vaccine updates should especially consider it.
'I saw a lot of people in the hospital who got a lot of shots in the beginning of the pandemic and then didn’t get any shots for a year or two years,' said Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, a professor of medicine at University of California-San Francisco and an infectious-disease specialist.
How is it this misinformation that is being spread across official agencies is not being blocked, reported or suppressed? We know the answer don’t we.
It fits the narrative. They know best and you will obey