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Dr. K's avatar

Vinay, Good article. But you have missed the overarching reason: the government promotes these insane policies (masking, spikeshots, whatever) and the milquetoast administrators (and, sadly, most physicians) just follow like the lap dogs they are. Money matters, but the most money comes from Medicare/Medicaid and that is all government administered. If the government says "we love masks" and "cut off all children's genitals if they ask" then very few will fight it. People will fight Pharma and some of us fight students regularly (I am tenured...what are they going to do to me? And lots of students love me because I am not woke -- And I tell it like it is and let the others cry in their beer) but no one can fight the government.

You are so close to recognizing this although I know it goes against your stated political beliefs. But only the government can force/coerce/extort you into doing this kind of stuff. If we fixed that, the other three points you made would likely self correct.

And as a case in point, much of what you say in your piece is an infraction of 2098 and could cost you your license since it is at variance with Newsom's/Fraudci's diktats about what is "true" about covid. So they get you one way or the other if you let them...and we continue to let them.

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LizardFro's avatar

Dr. K - thank you. You sound like an awesome teacher/professor. I have lost faith in higher education with all this! Not sure where my kids should be looking!

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H8SBAD's avatar

My wife and I have decided we will not fund our grandkids’ university education unless they show a particular talent and ambition in a specific area that will only be further enabled by the college path. This would include STEM areas.

Otherwise, as a default path after high school? Forget it.

I’d rather eat broken glass than pay to have my descendants’ young brains molded by idiots.

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TerriM's avatar

Don't forget to refuse to donate to your own alma maters if they have these policies.

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AKG's avatar

I recently read a 25+ Twitter thread posted by Bob Wachter (is he not from your univ?) where he either virtue signaled or publicly detailed his anxiety disorder. He outlined his commitment to perpetual masking and forever more avoiding mass gatherings. So there is no hope as long as people like Dr. Wachter have control of policy. I'm sorry for you and everyone else who has to deal with this delusion. I'm sorry for all the students who are being forced to accept this delusion or are currently brainwashed. Things are pretty well f-d up.

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23 SKIDOO!'s avatar

People like Wachter are examples of how irresponsible COVID ideologues can get because they roleplay "safety" without ever being held accountable for whether or not what they are prescribing is true.

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Laura Chinnavaso's avatar

Bob Wachter loves the sounds of his own tweets. 25+ tweets are his bread and butter. A parody of the absurd, he just doesn't realize it.

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AKG's avatar

I assume he sits in his office (masked, of course) with no idea of what's going on in the world at large.

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TM's avatar

This is so infuriating. Thankfully the military has rescinded the mandate ( for any future enlistees, the ones that were dishonorably discharged oh well, too bad😡). This makes me happy bc I have a son who is planning to enlist after college. He is a healthy young adult who had Covid and no way he needs any Covid vaccine.

Luckily I live in small town central USA. Away from the anxiety ridden Covidians. His college has nine of these insane C19 vaccine mandates. And I do not see health organizations in my area mandating annual boosters. Hospitals are already hemorrhaging staff (for variety of reasons) and I see no taste for repeat mandates in this area. I received the first two Pfizer shots (when I thought it would protect my Mother if I was exposed at work). And even though I’m fine (as far as I know😬 , admittedly I worry about my heart when I’m out for a long run , probably irrational I know) I am not open to injecting myself with something whose benefit does not outweigh the risks for my particular status, just for the heck of it. How will this madness stop??!!! Where are the debates? Where is the common sense? Where is the call for evidence? I end with how I started: this infuriating!

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TerriM's avatar

I hope you meant "none of these insane" :)

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TM's avatar

Lol. Yes! I saw that but don’t think there’s a way to edit. Thx for seeing and pointing out 🤪

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marlon1492's avatar

If you are using a web browser, you can click on the ... at the bottom of your post and it will allow you to edit it.

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TM's avatar

Ah, I see now. Thx!

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Andrea Fuentes's avatar

Dr. Prasad, I have tons of respect for Stanford and the medical team there. My son is seeing a gastro there, wonderful doctor. All good. I was surprised to be told when he is scheduled for a minor procedure, that 1 visitor who is fully vaccinated for COVID-19 can accompany otherwise no one. I'm vaccinated (no recent booster though). I just said yes I'm vaccinated, no problem. And if either of us are exposed recently or feeling sick reschedule. Fine. Great. But how ironic that they want me vaccinated when the vaccine doesn't stop transmission... and how does STANFORD not know this?

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April Snipes's avatar

So the follow up question I always ask myself is this; if they are so wrong on an issue that is as simple to debunk as Covid vaccination status and visitation policies, what other critical but nuanced issues are they missing that could lead to my demise? I have minimal respect for the healthcare system I’ve worked in for over 20 years. I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them.

I’ve sat by and watched in horror as my colleagues have gaslit one another over the origin of newly onset cardiac, neurological, oncologic, obstetric, and autoimmune conditions. Conditions that did not exist prior in otherwise healthy coworkers until days, weeks, and months after being dosed with the “safe & effective.”

I’ve seen my colleagues forced to resign from their careers due to their injuries, and watched as their employers denied them disability, workman’s comp, or any recourse even when it was proven to be a vax injury that was the result of “one size fits all get the vax or get lost policies.”

One particularly egregious story was of a Cardiologist who specializes in aortic dissections in women who actually told my friend, an ER Nurse who suffered a coronary artery dissection following her J&J Vaxx, that she refused to sign her medical exemption because she would rather her get boosted and have another heart attack then for her to get Covid. 😳👀

I’ve spoken to another colleague who is a utilization review nurse for BCBS, for a large swath of hospitals in CA. The last Covid death she has reviewed was in September of 2021. Yet if you listen to the news and evaluate the policies being forced on us, you’d never believe it to be true. She’s seen Doctors write in the chart that they bribed a homeless patient with food in order to force them to get vaccinated! Why, you ask? In order to be able to discharge them to an extended care facility that otherwise refused to take them because they were unvaccinated. They don’t mind admitting if they were vaxxed the same day, but no entry without that vax. What kind of stupid ass sense does that make?!!!!

She told me that in the early months of the pandemic, every single patient who was admitted had their ICD-10 code changed to Covid regardless of why they were presenting to the hospital. And then all of the sudden they got an email that said they didn’t have to do that anymore. Just like that, poof! No explanation, no rationale.

These people are currently running our healthcare system and they actually wonder why those of us with any kind of sense don’t trust anything they say anymore?

We all know better. We’ve all known this system has been corrupt for decades. Why did we fall for the dog and pony show? And are we too ashamed to admit we were fooled to course correct?

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smokegetsinyoureyes's avatar

Wow that makes me so angry!!!!!!!!!!

Still?!

Outrageous.

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Linda McConnell's avatar

It is the times we live in. We tiptoe around pronouns, names, nouns, politics, religion, creed, etc. Everyone is afraid to be first, and if everybody is afraid there is no one left to speak common sense. I know this to be a fact. During 14 years of my career I could not and did not bend to the policy makers, the consensus. Right is right, wrong is wrong, and I know how to play in the "gray area". So standing up for what is right got me fired 7 times during those years. I don't regret any one of them. When someone can't prove that rule or reg is necessary or even admit there is a better way that needs to be looked at and discussed, I will challenge it because I am for my patients. Nothing I ever did or said was for my gain, it was all about my staff, my patients. Unfortunately I don't see anything changing in my life time, so I will continue to do what I have to do for the betterment of my friends, relatives, and patients. (Like wearing my mask in nursing homes and assisted livings and hospitals and then taking it right off my face so my patient and I can communicate.

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23 SKIDOO!'s avatar

Why is the University unable to hold Wachter accountable for spreading the misinformation that the yearly COVID vax is "the same" as the flu vax (and also the misinformation that the flu vax is actually valuable for most people)?

Didn't we just pass a law about this?

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Zacknonymous's avatar

Flu shots ARE valuable to most people ... that value is simply VERY LOW. If you don't work with kids under ~5 or elders over ~70, then the value is only really for you. That value proposition is: There's about a 50% lower chance of you getting flu this year.

Well, shucks ... I have also gone years and years without getting the flu, anyway. Why bother? This is how most people (rationally) respond to that value proposition.

So, yes, I'm being a bit pedantic, here, but the difference is important. The spike protein is cytotoxic (350+ papers and counting). Every time you are exposed to it, you are rolling the dice that some long-term reaction might happen. Isn't rolling the dice when infection comes to your county enough risk? Purposely taking on additional exposures is like telling me smoking is healthy. How can something that WE KNOW does damage EVERY TIME you are exposed be GOOD for you? That doesn't mean that I think the damage is always cumulative, permanent, or otherwise disabling. Far as I'm concerned, getting a COVID vax is the same as going to a COVID sleepover party with a bunch of infected people. All risk and no reward for 99.999% of people.

At least the flu shot is legit useful for some small % of people. Maybe 10%? Great. That's ... 10% more benefit than COVID vax.

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April Snipes's avatar

I’m curious; based on the piling evidence that a large amount of scientific studies and statistical reporting have been manipulated to suit industry objectives, do you ever wonder if your long held beliefs about a particular treatment is actually based on sound scientific findings?

Or is it possible that the story they’ve told us to believe is nothing more than a lucrative fable?

Several years ago I was working on a business plan for a new venture and I thought to myself, if I could get the government to mandate that all healthcare workers, hospital facilities, and universities have to use my training services in order to maintain licensure I would be set!!!!!!

Fast forward to 2021, and low and behold.......I wasn’t the only one who was thinking along those lines 🤔

From a business standpoint, it’s a brilliant move.

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Zacknonymous's avatar

The short answer is, "yes." For as long as humans practice science, I expect to have large-scale revolutions that greatly change our perceptions of medicine, biology, and the world in general. I expect revelations of either how wrong we have been or how brilliant the new discovery is. In the past 20 years, we've essentially found a new 7-pound human organ that influences hundreds (if not thousands) of previously unseen, unstudied, and unloved processes in the human body. It is akin to discovering the circulatory system or the nervous system, and yet, somehow, with all the science we had in the 20th Century, no one bothered to look into our gut biome. Now, "probiotics" are inescapable, as if this wasn't a new frontier we basically opened, yesterday.

Here's the thing: When we think there's nothing big left to discover, that's when science dies. That's when corruption takes root because "innovation" becomes that much more difficult. How many times has Big Pharma betrayed humanity? It isn't like the COVID shots were the first time. Given the idiocy of US patent law, and our utter inability to manage a reasonable national healthcare system, OF COURSE people are going to show up with exploitative business models.

The only way to combat that is with transparency. So, your average flu shot is a pretty transparent process. By contrast, the US government passed a law saying no one could sue Pfizer or Moderna over their shot, and they attempted to seal the study records for 70 years. Science is about discovery, debate, and sharing knowledge. It is about repeating the experiments of your peers to see if you get the same results. The same people yelling, "follow the science!" are hiding the results of science ... how can we trust it? If we can't read the experiments, how can we check our results against theirs? If we don't have even that basic transparency, how would be able to find any statistical manipulation or fraudulent studies?

So, that's my basic metric, these days: Were they transparent about it? And if not, do I have any other reason to trust them at all, or are they cashing in yesterday's trust for today's grift?

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Tina Goloborodko MD, MPH's avatar

Vinay, I can’t thank you enough for writing about all this. My thoughts and observations exactly.

Your colleague from New York.

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Jaunie's avatar

You forgot one , namely institutions of higher learning have gradually become hijacked by

Marxist theory. There is a long and fruitless road ahead .

Academics must grow a pair and strike out to create parallel institutions that will tilt a balance back towards debate, risk taking, independent thinking, personal responsibility and real learning.

Lots of hard work ahead!

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Lindsay's avatar

My 11 year old had a knee injury a few months ago. He has to do physical therapy in a mask - exercising, including running on a treadmill in a mask. I can tell his PT thinks this is ridiculous but CA law. It feels like this will never end.

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Amber's avatar

I’m sorry. I live in one of the free areas/states and I can tell you that most hospitals and look the other way. They have signs all over but no one is wearing a mask unless they want to.

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Allison's avatar

Bravo VP! You continue to do your part to keep the flame lit and really wake others up to these crazy things. My friend's son is a graduate student at Depaul in Chicago, age 28, former Army dude, runs daily, perfect health. He had Covid back in 2021 and recovered fine. Depaul STILL forced him to get the primary series to get admitted...even though he tried to avoid it and showed proof of having had Covid. It didn't work. So now has had Covid & forced into 2 shots. Now to continue his studies he is MANDATED to get the Bivalent booster...which of course we know was only tested on 8 mice and there is no evidence at all that it would benefit him (or anyone for that matter)...and it very well may harm him as far as myocarditis and a long list of other things (you really should start mentioning...) He is attempting to find an MD who will write an exemption...but it may be better at the end of the day to find a religious exemption as they are fairly rigid on their exemptions... I wonder if at some point (I think this may be occurring) more people who are vaccine injured bring legal action against the universities that forced this upon them and get some form of justice...since they won't get it from Pharma. Don't smart people go to and run Depaul behind the scenes...?! I used to think so...not so much anymore.

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Lisa Lavrisha's avatar

Institutions not just beholden to Pharma and Biotech, but worried about future NIH grants too. I am old enough to remember great debates in medicine. Civil, interesting, thought-provoking debates. Often both sides knew that there was some truth to both arguments. But it spurred good research. Now reserach seems like smoke and mirrors job with an agenda not reserach for discovery of truth.

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Candace's avatar

I received a link to an article talking about the “war on empathy” when I mentioned that so much Covid information is still just not studied. So basically still can’t talk about any issues related to Covid unless you want to be a “bad” person. Just makes me tired.

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smokegetsinyoureyes's avatar

Not in a University, but in a preschool classroom this week I observed a woman come in to provide extra help to a child with special needs. I knew he had vision issues and used a walker. I introduced myself to her as I’m a new visitor to the site. She was wearing one of those N95s and told me she was employed as the child’s:

Speech And Language Therapist!!!

She should be fired.

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Bon Kwi Kwi's avatar

A powerful piece of writing from a SF denizen. Tho most people there appear happier than pigs in poo, glad someone is finally getting a shovel.

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Paul Railsback's avatar

Prestige academic institutions (and medical schools) select the highest academic performance...which is defined as conformance and rule following.

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