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H8SBAD's avatar

The burden of proof lies on the shoulders of those who want to impose the intervention, not on those questioning the necessity of the intervention. Why, since C19 pandemic inception, have we been assuming the opposite?

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I think there rightly should be a double standard when interpreting CI's:

1) Efficacy: If the point estimate is favorable, but the CI is wide, we should not jump on it, although admitting an effect is possible.

2) Safety: If the point estimate is unfavorable, but the CI is wide, we should jump on it and vigorously examine it to see if there is a risk.

In other words, safety always comes first.

Something everyone seems to ignore is that it is also plausible that facemasks could *increase* both covid transmission and severity, which makes it totally unacceptable to presume the risks are not substantial:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35363218/

"The Foegen Effect". This paper points out two simple mechanisms:

1) Not only do facemasks keep aerosols out, they also keep them *in*. So there may be a rebreathing of purified virus.

2) The facemask is not only a filter, but potentially a concentrator. The water in aerosols evaporates instantly, and now you have smaller viral particles that may be able to travel further into the lungs.

If a person wanted to deploy the logic of so-called experts, one could also say the Cochrane review's CI's are consistent with the hypothesis that facemasks are causing people to die from covid. I'm not saying that. Just pointing out how crazy the logic is.

The Foegen effect paper has only 4 PubMed citations after an entire year. And none of them critically discuss the hypothesis. It is one thing to erroneously treat a novel hypothesis. It is something else to not even acknowledge its existence.

The other risks of facemasks number in the dozens. The issue of CO2 inhalation for example is far from settled:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36133777/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9142210/

But what really makes the experts senseless is that they did not even jump on the best possible benefit of facemasks. It's not about preventing transmission. It's about reducing severity. Reducing viral dose and humidifying the lungs are two mechanisms to support that hypothesis. The masks promoters don't even know this...

As for the "we have physics" people: Physics says facemasks could make things better or worse. Therefore no RCTs are needed, cuz logic.

Edit: Also forgot to mention they never tested mask fitters like the Badger seal. These could drastically alter facemask efficacy and risks.

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