I wish irreparable financial and professional harm for these idiots. Because the next LOGICAL step is *NOT* wanting to provide care for Republican/Conservatives. Just like that resident of Dr. Prasad who argued with a gentlemen in a wheelchair who had a Trump sticker (or maybe it was just a MAGA hat).
And you are 100% spot on...the same people doing these boycotts seem to have no qualms going to fancy, glitzy places or serving their own priorities. I heard similar gasps, cries of lament and pearl clutching from colleagues at a academic hospital when they heard we traveled to Florida while (GASP) Ron DeSantis had it "open" during COVID. these same people had just come back from vacationing in Mexico. The double standard and political blindness knows no limits
Wow. It's sad how completely political and dare I say ignorant we in the medical community have become. It's so unfortunate that many in medicine have bought hook line and sinker the exaggeration the media and politicians have made these issues. As a physician who lives in Idaho (with similar laws), and having spoken to many OB providers in the area with similar concerns, the reality is far from what this urologists concerns are. Medical care for miscarriages are not banned/illegal. I advise that people actually talk to people on the ground before these publicized statements. It is politicizing our trade and further lowering the public's trust in medicine.
Don’t be silly. Every state allows for care during and after miscarriage. Virtue signaling. Maybe she shouldn’t travel anywhere during pregnancy if she’s high risk?
Overboard with your purist comments. Valid for her to worry. As physicians we should be taking issue and a stance with these red states and their antediluvian policies. These are valid medical concerns that should be addressed.
I get it, but in the case of the 30-year old pregnant urologist——-well, pregnancy only lasts 9 months, and I can see the wisdom of not wanting to travel to locations with limited options during that time, especially knowing that she has some risks.
I think what Dr. Winter is doing is different from a boycott. She is not traveling to Texas because she fears that if she had complications of her pregnancy that would require a D&C that she would not be able to receive that procedure while in Texas. Her fear is legitimate as many OB/Gyns are not performing that procedure in TX under any circumstance for fear of litigation. Read through her Twitter posts. She is not boycotting out of principle.
While I agree with you 100% that blanket boycotts are misplaced political energy that accomplish little to nothing, people choosing not to travel to red states for fear of lack of access to obstetrical care is very different, very real, and very justified.
Disagree on this one. Women pregnant or planning pregnancies avoid certain vacation destinations all the time (most notably places at Zika risk). We have no way of knowing if this particular woman would have avoided other places in which she could expect substandard care. Probably, she wouldn't have publicized her reason, but she might well have stayed home.
As a currently pregnant woman who had a previous pregnancy end in a medically indicated abortion, I would think long and hard about going to a red state right now.
For the one tenth of ONE Percent who are born believing their sex is wrong. Ok so now the Wokey Wimpy PC Phony group say it is 1 %. Regardless, you can put the entire number in your eye and not feel it. Another distraction. Another way to ignore our decline.
Physicians, yes I am one of them, entered the profession to treat people in need. The physicians petitioning the Supreme Court to ban the sale of Mifepristone so that they not be faced with patients in distress due to an adverse effect after its use is ridiculous. Their MORAL responsibility is to treat the patient not preach to them. Those encouraging use of Mifepristone also must counsel the users about responsible reproduction. Can telephonic prescribing achieve this.?
You're off. The states who have medically hurtful and repressive laws about reproductive freedom are doing their own freaking virtue signalling! Why do we have to voluntarily support that has health-care professionals via our time, money, and investment. Boycotts can work (as a black South African). Yes, they are not as effective as we might think but they can. If you want to visit a state for fun or cool geography -- go ahead, it's not stopping anything. But empty conference centers that used civic cash to build due to repressive heart-beat laws against female reproductive choice absolutely can.
I wish irreparable financial and professional harm for these idiots. Because the next LOGICAL step is *NOT* wanting to provide care for Republican/Conservatives. Just like that resident of Dr. Prasad who argued with a gentlemen in a wheelchair who had a Trump sticker (or maybe it was just a MAGA hat).
And you are 100% spot on...the same people doing these boycotts seem to have no qualms going to fancy, glitzy places or serving their own priorities. I heard similar gasps, cries of lament and pearl clutching from colleagues at a academic hospital when they heard we traveled to Florida while (GASP) Ron DeSantis had it "open" during COVID. these same people had just come back from vacationing in Mexico. The double standard and political blindness knows no limits
Just because someone is a physician doesn't mean they have a broad mind about everything.
Wow. It's sad how completely political and dare I say ignorant we in the medical community have become. It's so unfortunate that many in medicine have bought hook line and sinker the exaggeration the media and politicians have made these issues. As a physician who lives in Idaho (with similar laws), and having spoken to many OB providers in the area with similar concerns, the reality is far from what this urologists concerns are. Medical care for miscarriages are not banned/illegal. I advise that people actually talk to people on the ground before these publicized statements. It is politicizing our trade and further lowering the public's trust in medicine.
Don’t be silly. Every state allows for care during and after miscarriage. Virtue signaling. Maybe she shouldn’t travel anywhere during pregnancy if she’s high risk?
The idea of physicians embracing abortion is repellent.
Virtue signaling is a new credential in medicine. It goes right next to the position they hold in whatever medical center they are at presently.
Overboard with your purist comments. Valid for her to worry. As physicians we should be taking issue and a stance with these red states and their antediluvian policies. These are valid medical concerns that should be addressed.
I get it, but in the case of the 30-year old pregnant urologist——-well, pregnancy only lasts 9 months, and I can see the wisdom of not wanting to travel to locations with limited options during that time, especially knowing that she has some risks.
obesity conferences will certainly go well in red states.
I think what Dr. Winter is doing is different from a boycott. She is not traveling to Texas because she fears that if she had complications of her pregnancy that would require a D&C that she would not be able to receive that procedure while in Texas. Her fear is legitimate as many OB/Gyns are not performing that procedure in TX under any circumstance for fear of litigation. Read through her Twitter posts. She is not boycotting out of principle.
While I agree with you 100% that blanket boycotts are misplaced political energy that accomplish little to nothing, people choosing not to travel to red states for fear of lack of access to obstetrical care is very different, very real, and very justified.
Disagree on this one. Women pregnant or planning pregnancies avoid certain vacation destinations all the time (most notably places at Zika risk). We have no way of knowing if this particular woman would have avoided other places in which she could expect substandard care. Probably, she wouldn't have publicized her reason, but she might well have stayed home.
As a currently pregnant woman who had a previous pregnancy end in a medically indicated abortion, I would think long and hard about going to a red state right now.
For the one tenth of ONE Percent who are born believing their sex is wrong. Ok so now the Wokey Wimpy PC Phony group say it is 1 %. Regardless, you can put the entire number in your eye and not feel it. Another distraction. Another way to ignore our decline.
Hmmm, how is this boycotting different than an abolitionist boycotting a slave state?
Physicians, yes I am one of them, entered the profession to treat people in need. The physicians petitioning the Supreme Court to ban the sale of Mifepristone so that they not be faced with patients in distress due to an adverse effect after its use is ridiculous. Their MORAL responsibility is to treat the patient not preach to them. Those encouraging use of Mifepristone also must counsel the users about responsible reproduction. Can telephonic prescribing achieve this.?
You're off. The states who have medically hurtful and repressive laws about reproductive freedom are doing their own freaking virtue signalling! Why do we have to voluntarily support that has health-care professionals via our time, money, and investment. Boycotts can work (as a black South African). Yes, they are not as effective as we might think but they can. If you want to visit a state for fun or cool geography -- go ahead, it's not stopping anything. But empty conference centers that used civic cash to build due to repressive heart-beat laws against female reproductive choice absolutely can.