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Hansang Bae's avatar

I keep thinking "At some point, the adults will have to step in and take over at CDC/FDA, right, RIGHT???" Sadly no. So for me, with every study they (CDC et al) put out, there's an inverse square relationship with trust. And I am FAR FAR FAR to the right of that drop off curve. I dare say we're in the territory of criminal negligence. But I also know that NOTHING will come of it. Not with every MSM being lapdogs for Dr. Fauci.

Maybe Trump will say "Take the bivalent booster, it's AWESOME...'scuse me, 'scuse me...its GREAT" Then, every MSM and Doctors will shout "DON'T TAKE THE BIVALENT BOOSTER"

It's laughable, but I bet it'll play out exactly as above. There is precedent with AAP after all.

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Athina Kaviris's avatar

Thank you so much Vinay. I got one for you:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm

This is the one they did when all the schools and employers were mandating the vaccine so that people with natural immunity from prior infection couldn’t get an exemption. Their science is so incredibly bad that a normal person with average intelligence (me) can read it and find the flaws. For reals. I’ll show you.

To start, the study design is absurd. The cohort is: all hospitalized patients with respiratory symptoms. Notice I didn’t say, ‘hospitalized patients with CoVid like symptoms’ because that could trick you into believing they did an actual study of vaxxed vs non vaxxed patients hospitalized with CoVid. No. They did a study which identified two groups: patients hospitalized with any respiratory virus who were CoVid vaccinated with no prior CoVid infection and patients hospitalized with any respiratory virus who were not vaccinated and had prior CoVid. Then they asked the question: in which group is there a higher PERCENTAGE of CoVid positive patients?

Well what good does that do us? We’re trying to stay out of the hospital here and not die of ANY respiratory virus. What we want to know is how many vaxxed vs unvaxxed are ending up in the hospital?

So if that’s your goal, you can look on the charts to get your answer. Similar results across all the subcategories but here’s Delta:

Total vaccinated with any virus: 5,213

Total unvaccinated with any virus: 189

Total vaccinated who had CoVid: 306

Total unvaccinated who had CoVid: 19

MmmmK🤔. So how do they conclude you should get vaccinated ASAP??? Because 306 is only 5.9% of 5,213 while 19 is 10% of 189. 10% is much higher than 5.9%, see. Duh.

If we’re going to look at ratios, fuck. Look at which group is ending up hospitalized at a higher rate. I am not a scientist however, I do own a calculator:

5,213 vaccinated patients is 96.5% of all patients hospitalized with a respiratory virus during Delta.

The CoVid vaccine caused people to end up hospitalized with both Delta and other respiratory viruses at a much higher rate than non vaxxed with prior infection. Shouldn’t that have been the title?

I would so love it if you, an actual Doctor, would look at this study and give it a rake through. Is it really possible this is still published and has not garnished widespread criticism?

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