Jul 16, 2022·edited Jul 17, 2022Liked by Vinay Prasad
My immune compromised died died on a ventilator at 48 yo from an illness that healthy people never get. I was 20 yo. No one in the past 34 years has ever blamed me for bringing the illness home that killed him. Yet that is probably what happened. I never lived with that guilt.
These days we shame & scold children & threaten that “kids will kill their grandparents” if they don’t wear masks. It’s toxic, tragic & abusive. The insanity needs to stop.
This health care worker should know better than to blame others for getting a respiratory virus & your suggestion for them to seek mental health care is an excellent one.
My spouse is an essential worker in the transportation industry (airlines). He never had the option to work remotely. So he spent the past 2 years in airports and on planes. And then he came home and cohabitated with me. I get angry when people say, self-righteously, that they "took the virus seriously" or "stayed home and stayed safe". Because that only works for a select group of people. The rest of us are the ones making sure that groceries (and vaccines) are delivered, that medical care is provided, that police and fire protection remains constant. It takes such hubris to fault others for not suppressing this virus when we are all so dependent on each other.
If your mask works to prevent infection, then why do I need to mask? If your vaccine protects you, then why do I need to get the jab? Masks and jabs are obvious failures and she cannot accept it. Very sad.
I really appreciate your level-headed analysis of data, society, health policy, etc. You’re a breath of fresh air and way too rational and realistic survive in this polarized world! Lol! But seriously, thanks! Love Plenary Session, Love the VPZD show. Keep up the good fight for evidence based policy decisions!
It’s so fucking sad. I bump into people with attitudes like this in real life and the internet and they’re so bitter and angry at me choosing not to wear a mask anymore for trying to live my life to the fullest they just shout, insult, block and ignore my rational reasonings. All I can do is move on and let them suffer their own fate and problems. I can’t deal with people like this anymore. It’s too draining and I fear the emotional damage done to them is permanently scarred.
Vinay, I often disagree with your articles to a degree but this is bang on. These Covidians are completely insane and I think it's gotten to the stage that they seriously need help.
What's frustrating to me is that there IS cause for rage about this virus (unlike other viruses) because there is plenty of evidence of lab origins. So this rage is misdirected at those who were not at fault and ignoring those who arrogantly thought they could make viruses more contagious and nothing would go wrong.
And if anger never gets turned to the true source, it will happen again. Lab mistakes happen all the time. If you know scientists who work in labs (in my area, that would be MIT and Harvard, etc,), they will tell you lab animals escape.
It was crazy what virus scientists involved in gain of function and similar research were doing (and are still doing) and it puts us all at risk. There is no evidence the work to alter viruses helped at all during this pandemic. And this was the time of all times, it was supposed to come in handy, whatever it was they were going to learn from it.
Instead, something escaped to the world that has cost us all dearly. We should be actively seeking to hold them accountable and have rules that stop this dangerous type of science from happening anymore.
Very clear analysis of how people treated COVID differently from previous pandemics and in doing so opposed what the medical, scientific, and public health knowledge told us.
First off, the DEATHVAX™ does absolutely nothing for transmission, and to date there is not a single legitimate study that shows it lessens the sickness.
No matter the mendacious murderers like Fauci claiming if he were not injected with EUA experimental gene therapy four times now his two bouts of COVID would have been worse -- this is unproven and a scam to get people to harm themselves with these "vaccines".
No one that induced endogenous spike protein production from any of these mRNA injections is healthy. This woman is unhealthy even if she "feels fine" because she has cytotoxic misshapen spike proteins in her system being indefinitely generated thanks to the Pseudouridine component of these deadly injections.
This 41yo woman is mentally ill due to being a victim of mass formation psychosis.
My theory, if anyone is interested, is that if we look at the broad arc of history we're now reaching the end of the Age of Enlightenment and we're moving into a new dark ages. One with nuclear weapons and petrochemical plants everywhere. These people are the exact same ones that burned witches and heretics 500 years ago and they're itching to to burn someone at the stake today.
Thank you so much for being a voice of reason among the hysterical. Honestly, I'm afraid to see doctors at this point. It seems to me that the views expressed by the "doctor" in her post are somewhat common in the medical community. How could I trust someone prone to such emotional, irrational thinking to make level-headed decisions about my healthcare - should I need it?
Dr. Prasad- first, i'd like to say that i so appreciate your level headed position and your bravery in speaking up during these insane times. i also have enjoyed seeing you get a bit radical as the full measure of insanity from people you probably respected in the past (CDC, FDA, etc) has caused you doubts. i'm sending you a virtual hug. it's hard to have the rug pulled out from under you.
this person is insane! full stop. and should NEVER see patients. if she wants to be that safe, she should lock herself away in a germ free, hyper sanitized bubble and stay there until death. i love the current belief that we are somehow guaranteed a life of perfect health, never to have a cold or flu and that it is humanity's collective job to maintain a state of purity so that WE never get sick from "them."
i am resolutely unvaccinated, having seen my cousin's wife spend a year in a wheelchair with GBS in 1976 from the rushed and completely unnecessary swine flu vaccine. it seems to me that our present situation is a rerun of that folly on steroids. i am 69, slim and have asthma. i recently caught covid from a double vaccinated and singly boosted friend. in this case i can point with certainty to my friend as the vector because she was feeling poorly and asked if she could come over to use my far infared sauna. two days later, i woke feeling achy and feverish. i tested positive the next day. i felt perfectly back to normal on the third day and tested negative a week later. my boyfriend (74) started to feel bad the day i felt fine. he tested positive and was in bed for 5 days with no fever but a bad sore throat which we treated (and cured) by nebulizing a 1% H2O2 saline solution. we both take a small weekly dose of a currently "forbidden" generic drug and boosted our dose when we were sick.
now i guess i could accuse my friend, disown her and try to sue her for damages but oddly, this isn't the first time i've been sick in my life and i'm betting it won't be the last. i think of all the years, centuries really, where people have sat, packed together in dark theaters, restaurants, buses, etc next to total strangers who were sneezing and coughing and we never thought a thing about it. now i'd expect a panicked stampede with a few trampling fatalities all to avoid a virus which is in the air!
if people knew (and this doctor should) the billions, trillions of germs and bacteria to which we are exposed every waking minute... it's a wonder any of us make it through the day and that wonder is our suddenly woefully under estimated immune systems which somehow manage to keep us alive despite the onslaught of god knows what.
it is true as Dr Makary says "a pandemic of lunacy."
Your columns, podcasts and insight were a huge help to me over the last 2+ years. Unfortunately, the fear of Covid exhibited by this doctor is all too common in the Bay Area; especially among too many I know who are double boosted, carefully N95 masked (except when it's not convenient to do so) and live in areas that are 90+% vaccinated and boosted. They still believe deep inside that Covid Zero was possible if only everyone had "behaved".
My immune compromised died died on a ventilator at 48 yo from an illness that healthy people never get. I was 20 yo. No one in the past 34 years has ever blamed me for bringing the illness home that killed him. Yet that is probably what happened. I never lived with that guilt.
These days we shame & scold children & threaten that “kids will kill their grandparents” if they don’t wear masks. It’s toxic, tragic & abusive. The insanity needs to stop.
This health care worker should know better than to blame others for getting a respiratory virus & your suggestion for them to seek mental health care is an excellent one.
My spouse is an essential worker in the transportation industry (airlines). He never had the option to work remotely. So he spent the past 2 years in airports and on planes. And then he came home and cohabitated with me. I get angry when people say, self-righteously, that they "took the virus seriously" or "stayed home and stayed safe". Because that only works for a select group of people. The rest of us are the ones making sure that groceries (and vaccines) are delivered, that medical care is provided, that police and fire protection remains constant. It takes such hubris to fault others for not suppressing this virus when we are all so dependent on each other.
If your mask works to prevent infection, then why do I need to mask? If your vaccine protects you, then why do I need to get the jab? Masks and jabs are obvious failures and she cannot accept it. Very sad.
I really appreciate your level-headed analysis of data, society, health policy, etc. You’re a breath of fresh air and way too rational and realistic survive in this polarized world! Lol! But seriously, thanks! Love Plenary Session, Love the VPZD show. Keep up the good fight for evidence based policy decisions!
It’s so fucking sad. I bump into people with attitudes like this in real life and the internet and they’re so bitter and angry at me choosing not to wear a mask anymore for trying to live my life to the fullest they just shout, insult, block and ignore my rational reasonings. All I can do is move on and let them suffer their own fate and problems. I can’t deal with people like this anymore. It’s too draining and I fear the emotional damage done to them is permanently scarred.
Vinay, I often disagree with your articles to a degree but this is bang on. These Covidians are completely insane and I think it's gotten to the stage that they seriously need help.
Instead of cursing, perhaps following the FLCCC appropriate protocol might be more useful?
What's frustrating to me is that there IS cause for rage about this virus (unlike other viruses) because there is plenty of evidence of lab origins. So this rage is misdirected at those who were not at fault and ignoring those who arrogantly thought they could make viruses more contagious and nothing would go wrong.
And if anger never gets turned to the true source, it will happen again. Lab mistakes happen all the time. If you know scientists who work in labs (in my area, that would be MIT and Harvard, etc,), they will tell you lab animals escape.
It was crazy what virus scientists involved in gain of function and similar research were doing (and are still doing) and it puts us all at risk. There is no evidence the work to alter viruses helped at all during this pandemic. And this was the time of all times, it was supposed to come in handy, whatever it was they were going to learn from it.
Instead, something escaped to the world that has cost us all dearly. We should be actively seeking to hold them accountable and have rules that stop this dangerous type of science from happening anymore.
Very clear analysis of how people treated COVID differently from previous pandemics and in doing so opposed what the medical, scientific, and public health knowledge told us.
First off, the DEATHVAX™ does absolutely nothing for transmission, and to date there is not a single legitimate study that shows it lessens the sickness.
No matter the mendacious murderers like Fauci claiming if he were not injected with EUA experimental gene therapy four times now his two bouts of COVID would have been worse -- this is unproven and a scam to get people to harm themselves with these "vaccines".
No one that induced endogenous spike protein production from any of these mRNA injections is healthy. This woman is unhealthy even if she "feels fine" because she has cytotoxic misshapen spike proteins in her system being indefinitely generated thanks to the Pseudouridine component of these deadly injections.
This 41yo woman is mentally ill due to being a victim of mass formation psychosis.
If you would like to read more on the covid program and other deep state scams: https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/
My theory, if anyone is interested, is that if we look at the broad arc of history we're now reaching the end of the Age of Enlightenment and we're moving into a new dark ages. One with nuclear weapons and petrochemical plants everywhere. These people are the exact same ones that burned witches and heretics 500 years ago and they're itching to to burn someone at the stake today.
Thank you so much for being a voice of reason among the hysterical. Honestly, I'm afraid to see doctors at this point. It seems to me that the views expressed by the "doctor" in her post are somewhat common in the medical community. How could I trust someone prone to such emotional, irrational thinking to make level-headed decisions about my healthcare - should I need it?
Dr. Prasad- first, i'd like to say that i so appreciate your level headed position and your bravery in speaking up during these insane times. i also have enjoyed seeing you get a bit radical as the full measure of insanity from people you probably respected in the past (CDC, FDA, etc) has caused you doubts. i'm sending you a virtual hug. it's hard to have the rug pulled out from under you.
this person is insane! full stop. and should NEVER see patients. if she wants to be that safe, she should lock herself away in a germ free, hyper sanitized bubble and stay there until death. i love the current belief that we are somehow guaranteed a life of perfect health, never to have a cold or flu and that it is humanity's collective job to maintain a state of purity so that WE never get sick from "them."
i am resolutely unvaccinated, having seen my cousin's wife spend a year in a wheelchair with GBS in 1976 from the rushed and completely unnecessary swine flu vaccine. it seems to me that our present situation is a rerun of that folly on steroids. i am 69, slim and have asthma. i recently caught covid from a double vaccinated and singly boosted friend. in this case i can point with certainty to my friend as the vector because she was feeling poorly and asked if she could come over to use my far infared sauna. two days later, i woke feeling achy and feverish. i tested positive the next day. i felt perfectly back to normal on the third day and tested negative a week later. my boyfriend (74) started to feel bad the day i felt fine. he tested positive and was in bed for 5 days with no fever but a bad sore throat which we treated (and cured) by nebulizing a 1% H2O2 saline solution. we both take a small weekly dose of a currently "forbidden" generic drug and boosted our dose when we were sick.
now i guess i could accuse my friend, disown her and try to sue her for damages but oddly, this isn't the first time i've been sick in my life and i'm betting it won't be the last. i think of all the years, centuries really, where people have sat, packed together in dark theaters, restaurants, buses, etc next to total strangers who were sneezing and coughing and we never thought a thing about it. now i'd expect a panicked stampede with a few trampling fatalities all to avoid a virus which is in the air!
if people knew (and this doctor should) the billions, trillions of germs and bacteria to which we are exposed every waking minute... it's a wonder any of us make it through the day and that wonder is our suddenly woefully under estimated immune systems which somehow manage to keep us alive despite the onslaught of god knows what.
it is true as Dr Makary says "a pandemic of lunacy."
Beautifully said, as always. Thank you for your clear, incisive analysis. You are one of my heroes.
Your columns, podcasts and insight were a huge help to me over the last 2+ years. Unfortunately, the fear of Covid exhibited by this doctor is all too common in the Bay Area; especially among too many I know who are double boosted, carefully N95 masked (except when it's not convenient to do so) and live in areas that are 90+% vaccinated and boosted. They still believe deep inside that Covid Zero was possible if only everyone had "behaved".