Omg, I only have a few minutes and need to read this Stack and the study until I completely understand both but this sounds like the exact same study design of another earlier CDC study I can’t believe no one made a big deal about for not only being shit but revealing a total opposite in the data.
Omg, I only have a few minutes and need to read this Stack and the study until I completely understand both but this sounds like the exact same study design of another earlier CDC study I can’t believe no one made a big deal about for not only being shit but revealing a total opposite in the data.
Side note: I think you know about the Bandim Health Project/ Dr Peter Aaby/ Dr Tracey Hoeg because, if I’m not mistaken, you’ve coauthored some papers with her and she recently did an audio SubStack with Dr Christine Stabell Benn.
Anyway, their big finding was that all killed vaccines have the non specific effect of higher mortality from other illnesses.
Ok, so assume the asshole data skewers know this. So if you want to skew a study, start with only looking at hospitalized patients. Why? Because the vaccine is going to cause increased hospitalization from OTHER respiratory illnesses. Now you say, oh look. Out of everyone in here with a respiratory illness, if you separate them into vaxxed and no vaxxed, a Smaller Percentage vaxxed tested positive for CoVid. Well no shit, that’s because there’s a huge number of vaxxed filling up the hospital with OTHER respiratory diseases (if Dr Aaby’s work is correct). The more important number to look at is not the percentage.
It’s who is filling up the hospital?
Vaxxed or Non vaxxed?
That’s all I care about. Keeping my kids out of the hospital. So I don’t have time to look at the study you posted and I only breezed your stack. But in this other study, the numbers were crazy if you do your own math. During Delta it was something like 97% vaccinated for other respiratory illnesses.
A better title would be: Vaccinated are filling up the hospital with other respiratory diseases.
I can’t wait to look at this study and do a similar thing I did here.
Oh btw, there were still over 90% vaccinated during Delta compared to non vaxxed if you do your own math. This was an intentionally child like looking science project I created for our school board when they were mandating the vax. The whole point is, if you just look at numbers and do your own math, you’ll see exactly what Dr Aaby said.
Looking at that study, 6 times as many fully vaccinated people presented with Covid like illness as unvaccinated people. So while the study may find a smaller percent of Covid illness in the fully vaccinated Covid like illness group, that group is still getting sick with something, sick enough to go to the hospital, so does full vaccination increase risk of non Covid infections?
Sorry. The data in this study disprove the claim that the non vaxxed were up the hospitals! The only redeeming quality supposedly left for the CoVid vax: reducing hospitalization.
Excellent observation. I think you are absolutely right that without accounting for potential detrimental nonspecific effects of vaccines, you can't use these test-negative studies as evidence of efficacy. That would stack the studies.
That's fascinating. I read a study done in... Vietnam I think.... on one of the trivalent flu shots, and that was also the result - less flu, but more non-respitory illnesses.
Omg, I only have a few minutes and need to read this Stack and the study until I completely understand both but this sounds like the exact same study design of another earlier CDC study I can’t believe no one made a big deal about for not only being shit but revealing a total opposite in the data.
Side note: I think you know about the Bandim Health Project/ Dr Peter Aaby/ Dr Tracey Hoeg because, if I’m not mistaken, you’ve coauthored some papers with her and she recently did an audio SubStack with Dr Christine Stabell Benn.
Anyway, their big finding was that all killed vaccines have the non specific effect of higher mortality from other illnesses.
Ok, so assume the asshole data skewers know this. So if you want to skew a study, start with only looking at hospitalized patients. Why? Because the vaccine is going to cause increased hospitalization from OTHER respiratory illnesses. Now you say, oh look. Out of everyone in here with a respiratory illness, if you separate them into vaxxed and no vaxxed, a Smaller Percentage vaxxed tested positive for CoVid. Well no shit, that’s because there’s a huge number of vaxxed filling up the hospital with OTHER respiratory diseases (if Dr Aaby’s work is correct). The more important number to look at is not the percentage.
It’s who is filling up the hospital?
Vaxxed or Non vaxxed?
That’s all I care about. Keeping my kids out of the hospital. So I don’t have time to look at the study you posted and I only breezed your stack. But in this other study, the numbers were crazy if you do your own math. During Delta it was something like 97% vaccinated for other respiratory illnesses.
A better title would be: Vaccinated are filling up the hospital with other respiratory diseases.
I can’t wait to look at this study and do a similar thing I did here.
Oh btw, there were still over 90% vaccinated during Delta compared to non vaxxed if you do your own math. This was an intentionally child like looking science project I created for our school board when they were mandating the vax. The whole point is, if you just look at numbers and do your own math, you’ll see exactly what Dr Aaby said.
https://substack.com/profile/117037158-athina-kaviris/note/c-39689708?r=1xoig6&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
I know you already explain the study is biased
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm
Looking at that study, 6 times as many fully vaccinated people presented with Covid like illness as unvaccinated people. So while the study may find a smaller percent of Covid illness in the fully vaccinated Covid like illness group, that group is still getting sick with something, sick enough to go to the hospital, so does full vaccination increase risk of non Covid infections?
Sorry. The data in this study disprove the claim that the non vaxxed were up the hospitals! The only redeeming quality supposedly left for the CoVid vax: reducing hospitalization.
Athena-There’s not one RCT that shows they reduce hospitalization.
Filling*. Wow. So crazy the blatant lies.
Excellent observation. I think you are absolutely right that without accounting for potential detrimental nonspecific effects of vaccines, you can't use these test-negative studies as evidence of efficacy. That would stack the studies.
That's fascinating. I read a study done in... Vietnam I think.... on one of the trivalent flu shots, and that was also the result - less flu, but more non-respitory illnesses.