You need to update your belief that only young men are at risk for heart damage. Latest studies show women are at equal or greater risk of heart damage.
Good points. Re: Point #7: The CDC and FDA have the simplistic notion that any sort of negative news on the covid vaccines would reduce trust in the vaccines. By this reasoning, they did everything to ignore and suppress bad news on the vaccines. As noted, cases in point are the J&J vaccine and recommending covid vaccines for healthy people under 40 years or so, esp if they have had covid. You can be sure that the recent reports of "long vax" will not be investigated by the CDC and FDA, at least publicly.
Of course, suppressing bad news is the best way possible to undermine public support for the vaccines. This is a strong signal to the world that dishonesty is acceptable. In the same spirit of naive thinking, they blame the loss of credibility of public health agencies on "anti-vaxxers". The CDC and FDA don't even understand that honesty is a pillar of good public health. They've dug themselves into a deep hole...and are still digging!
Excellent work! It says a lot that you stayed with this when your initial understanding of the shots were more beneficial than they turned out to be. I believed these tenets the whole way through, it is experimental, let people choose to take or not (I chose to take because I unwittingly thought that it would help get the teachers and students back into the high school where I work - Union President did not get it when offered...found out after I got it - ugh! I would have waited...), tell us who is at most benefit and why, natural immunity is a thing (this is what really blew my mind and honestly really freaked me out when it was so downplayed - can't say that the I Am Legend movie didn't creep into my thoughts from time to time-when so many just "followed the science") and where are the studies proving all the claims by the Gov. As a high school history teacher these tactics are reminiscent of many previous periods in history. Now, please research the effects on young women, 2 of my daughters had to get vaxxed and then boosted to get their classes at University of Utah. They had nice trick where they said you could get a waiver if you applied and then never responded to the requests so you couldn't sign up for classes. The Moderna Swiss study that Dr. Campbell went through showed much higher rates in women for myocarditis. Both daughters had Covid and one ended up in the hospital 2 months after the shot when she got what we think was Covid, but they didn't test her South Carolina because she had just got the shot. 2nd daughter had to get the booster 2 weeks after getting Covid to get her classes. I am Catholic and for a bit I had wished my girls were at BYU, where they had a much healthier policy for their young ones. I truly pray that we did not hurt a generation of young people. Please continue to monitor the effects on young women. My youngest daughter's boyfriend had to get the shot after having mild Covid and a booster and he just went in for heart surgery on a heart arrhythmia. He was out of school for 8 weeks in the fall of his senior year. It appears successful and we will hope that he will be fine. Seriously, what did we do?
If we want to talk about young women as a specific cohort, I think there's more than enough smoke to talk very seriously about impacts on fertility, menstruation, and reproductive health in general, above and beyond heart damage.
In a sane world, every woman without high-risk factors would have run screaming from any vax or boosters when they did studies showing the mRNA showing up in BREAST MILK after vax! I would have like to have seen million-woman marches over that---and think of the knitted-hat possibilities.
Remember, this product was supposed to stay in the arm muscle only, and dissipate within a few days. Instead it's gone into the circulatory and lymphatic systems and is turning up in all kinds of organs, along with excessive spike proteins.
Yes Vinay, but 1-7 don’t matter unless they start with:
A vaccine that is truly safe
and
A vaccine that is truly effective
I like the word “infantilize”. Moron comes from the Greek word for baby, moro. (Accent on last syllable). Next time I want to call someone a ‘moron’ but am restrained by polite manners, I’m going incorporate ‘infantilize’. I think that sounds like an infantilized perspective. Yeah. That works.
You are the only person that I have heard mention #6. Maybe others have but this is such as important point and this needs to be remembered as we approach the 2024 election.
Dr Prasad here feels obligated I suspect to beat the drum that excess death in areas where mis information and peer pressure combined to lower rates of vaccination was not his fault.
Myocarditis did occur in mostly androgen rich young men (animal studies show increased rates of inflammation including myocarditis related to androgen levels) mostly from higher dose Moderna after the second dose and at much lower rates after subsequent doses. COViD 19 myocarditis was at least 16 times higher and more severe. With only a handful of acceptions death or permanent disability did not occur. This can’t be said for the unvaxed COVID‐19.
The idea that only herd immunity justified strong recommendation to reduce your risk of ICU admission and death is beyond spurious.
When I have some time this week I will address each of his points but in the meantime consider the fact that 10’s of thousands of people misinformed by “experts” like Dr Prasad died or are permanently disabled because they were persuaded not to protect themselves.
Perhaps the lady doth protest too much?
Some background if you care to go beyond these talking points.
You need to update your belief that only young men are at risk for heart damage. Latest studies show women are at equal or greater risk of heart damage.
Vinay,
Good points. Re: Point #7: The CDC and FDA have the simplistic notion that any sort of negative news on the covid vaccines would reduce trust in the vaccines. By this reasoning, they did everything to ignore and suppress bad news on the vaccines. As noted, cases in point are the J&J vaccine and recommending covid vaccines for healthy people under 40 years or so, esp if they have had covid. You can be sure that the recent reports of "long vax" will not be investigated by the CDC and FDA, at least publicly.
Of course, suppressing bad news is the best way possible to undermine public support for the vaccines. This is a strong signal to the world that dishonesty is acceptable. In the same spirit of naive thinking, they blame the loss of credibility of public health agencies on "anti-vaxxers". The CDC and FDA don't even understand that honesty is a pillar of good public health. They've dug themselves into a deep hole...and are still digging!
When your enemy is digging their own grave, hand them a shovel.
I'd happily see every one of these thoroughly captured, irredeemable institutions talk themselves into the ground, never to return.
Wow powerful work and so valuable. May it spread far and wide, and something actually be done that this kind of thing never happens again.
Excellent work! It says a lot that you stayed with this when your initial understanding of the shots were more beneficial than they turned out to be. I believed these tenets the whole way through, it is experimental, let people choose to take or not (I chose to take because I unwittingly thought that it would help get the teachers and students back into the high school where I work - Union President did not get it when offered...found out after I got it - ugh! I would have waited...), tell us who is at most benefit and why, natural immunity is a thing (this is what really blew my mind and honestly really freaked me out when it was so downplayed - can't say that the I Am Legend movie didn't creep into my thoughts from time to time-when so many just "followed the science") and where are the studies proving all the claims by the Gov. As a high school history teacher these tactics are reminiscent of many previous periods in history. Now, please research the effects on young women, 2 of my daughters had to get vaxxed and then boosted to get their classes at University of Utah. They had nice trick where they said you could get a waiver if you applied and then never responded to the requests so you couldn't sign up for classes. The Moderna Swiss study that Dr. Campbell went through showed much higher rates in women for myocarditis. Both daughters had Covid and one ended up in the hospital 2 months after the shot when she got what we think was Covid, but they didn't test her South Carolina because she had just got the shot. 2nd daughter had to get the booster 2 weeks after getting Covid to get her classes. I am Catholic and for a bit I had wished my girls were at BYU, where they had a much healthier policy for their young ones. I truly pray that we did not hurt a generation of young people. Please continue to monitor the effects on young women. My youngest daughter's boyfriend had to get the shot after having mild Covid and a booster and he just went in for heart surgery on a heart arrhythmia. He was out of school for 8 weeks in the fall of his senior year. It appears successful and we will hope that he will be fine. Seriously, what did we do?
If we want to talk about young women as a specific cohort, I think there's more than enough smoke to talk very seriously about impacts on fertility, menstruation, and reproductive health in general, above and beyond heart damage.
In a sane world, every woman without high-risk factors would have run screaming from any vax or boosters when they did studies showing the mRNA showing up in BREAST MILK after vax! I would have like to have seen million-woman marches over that---and think of the knitted-hat possibilities.
Remember, this product was supposed to stay in the arm muscle only, and dissipate within a few days. Instead it's gone into the circulatory and lymphatic systems and is turning up in all kinds of organs, along with excessive spike proteins.
A thousand times this, every word.
Glad to see you are still alive and kicking, GM! We all miss you.
Dr. K, might you happen to be one and the same as the Dr. K who is a regular Althouse commenter?
You are right. At least one daughter's cycle was affected and she had joint pain for months afterward.
Yes Vinay, but 1-7 don’t matter unless they start with:
A vaccine that is truly safe
and
A vaccine that is truly effective
I like the word “infantilize”. Moron comes from the Greek word for baby, moro. (Accent on last syllable). Next time I want to call someone a ‘moron’ but am restrained by polite manners, I’m going incorporate ‘infantilize’. I think that sounds like an infantilized perspective. Yeah. That works.
Thank goodness for you, Dr. Prasad!
❤️
Many hospitals in Canada are still requiring employees and new hires to be vaccinated. I find this shocking.
"Infantalization" is exactly the right word. Combine this with the narcissism of many of our leaders and you get a toxic stew of disinformation.
It’s so disturbing what’s happened/happening in this country. Who can you trust? I’m thankful for you Dr Prasad.
You are the only person that I have heard mention #6. Maybe others have but this is such as important point and this needs to be remembered as we approach the 2024 election.
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/scicheck-benefits-of-covid-19-vaccination-outweigh-the-rare-risk-of-myocarditis-even-in-young-males/
A fact check piece may be a bit more readable here.
Dr Prasad here feels obligated I suspect to beat the drum that excess death in areas where mis information and peer pressure combined to lower rates of vaccination was not his fault.
Myocarditis did occur in mostly androgen rich young men (animal studies show increased rates of inflammation including myocarditis related to androgen levels) mostly from higher dose Moderna after the second dose and at much lower rates after subsequent doses. COViD 19 myocarditis was at least 16 times higher and more severe. With only a handful of acceptions death or permanent disability did not occur. This can’t be said for the unvaxed COVID‐19.
The idea that only herd immunity justified strong recommendation to reduce your risk of ICU admission and death is beyond spurious.
When I have some time this week I will address each of his points but in the meantime consider the fact that 10’s of thousands of people misinformed by “experts” like Dr Prasad died or are permanently disabled because they were persuaded not to protect themselves.
Perhaps the lady doth protest too much?
Some background if you care to go beyond these talking points.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9538893/
You are unbelievable..
Do you have kids?