It doesn't matter if the disease is bad, it appears to matter that their "intentions are good" and thus infallible despite the lack of evidence of benefit and the evidence of harm.
People die. Hard to deal with except that all economists agree we have too many. At six billion, things work better. We have 8 billion. Too many people trying to sell a song or make a new lipstick or fix a health issue because there is not much to do. Covid deaths were due to obesity which was produced by the CDC when they manipulated the BMI so everyone is good. Except 65% are obese. Now we have an aging population. No way we can maintain a decent health care system. Need to look at the entire situation for the next ten years.
Thank you, again, Vinay, for this post, as these types of arguments have been thrown around by many in defense of their viewpoint. I enjoyed the bit about slaughtering a chicken, and will start using that when discussing this type of misdirected problem solving. The adage, "do something even if it is wrong", did not hold up well over time in this case. I think we humans feel helpless at times, and the desire to try to "fix" things is very strong, leading us to propose and enact ridiculous mandates such as toddler masking and ad nauseum testing. We also tend to shy away from the difficult topics like the obesity piece in the COVID era. There has been very little talk about building your own immune system with lifestyle interventions and high quality food, which is something that actually has the potential to make a positive impact in our society.
The real problem is not that some of the interventions were not helpful. Or merely stupid. The real problem is that politicians wanted too much control, and their real agenda was much more sinister than merely promoting useless interventions.
Masking was not simply a useless or stupid intervention. Masking was mandated. It was harmful. It was meant to control people, not the virus.
“Patient satisfaction” has not helped healthcare, either. Clinicians got docked for calling patients “obese” (see Joan’s comment above), non-experts told doctors they wanted this or that drug based on commercials they saw, or antibiotics when they weren’t needed...(google says ONE star for a “bad” doctor who actually isn’t and did good NOT to prescribe an antibiotic for a virus...). And on. All that being said, I think we can pull thru. Too bad our forefathers only separated church and state. Healthcare woulda been good, too.
Politicians must be seen to be doing something, even if it is totally ineffective. Then they will convince you against all evidence to the contrary that their intervention was effective.
Thank the gods for Dr. Prasad and others like him for speaking their minds, backed up by data, for years now. Hopefully the administration at UCSF don’t endlessly harass him for being something other than a worker drone.
I dunno, I could probably slaughter a LOT of chickens before that plane hit the ground, and if I was sacrificing them to Thor or something, the crash might be averted.
This is yet another example of a medical procedure/treatment that "obviously saves thousands of lives", but for which such a truism does not resist to scrutiny (e.g. RCTs). Among others, some studies have concluded that mechanical ventilation in SARS-Cov-2 induced ARDS is not associated with a lower mortality nor a better outcome in surviving patients. I, for one, was very clear to my spouse and children that I would refuse mechanical ventilation (but accept other forms of oxygenotherapy and prone positionning).
It doesn't matter if the disease is bad, it appears to matter that their "intentions are good" and thus infallible despite the lack of evidence of benefit and the evidence of harm.
People die. Hard to deal with except that all economists agree we have too many. At six billion, things work better. We have 8 billion. Too many people trying to sell a song or make a new lipstick or fix a health issue because there is not much to do. Covid deaths were due to obesity which was produced by the CDC when they manipulated the BMI so everyone is good. Except 65% are obese. Now we have an aging population. No way we can maintain a decent health care system. Need to look at the entire situation for the next ten years.
Thank you, again, Vinay, for this post, as these types of arguments have been thrown around by many in defense of their viewpoint. I enjoyed the bit about slaughtering a chicken, and will start using that when discussing this type of misdirected problem solving. The adage, "do something even if it is wrong", did not hold up well over time in this case. I think we humans feel helpless at times, and the desire to try to "fix" things is very strong, leading us to propose and enact ridiculous mandates such as toddler masking and ad nauseum testing. We also tend to shy away from the difficult topics like the obesity piece in the COVID era. There has been very little talk about building your own immune system with lifestyle interventions and high quality food, which is something that actually has the potential to make a positive impact in our society.
The real problem is not that some of the interventions were not helpful. Or merely stupid. The real problem is that politicians wanted too much control, and their real agenda was much more sinister than merely promoting useless interventions.
Masking was not simply a useless or stupid intervention. Masking was mandated. It was harmful. It was meant to control people, not the virus.
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Someone should do one on Ivermectin
“Patient satisfaction” has not helped healthcare, either. Clinicians got docked for calling patients “obese” (see Joan’s comment above), non-experts told doctors they wanted this or that drug based on commercials they saw, or antibiotics when they weren’t needed...(google says ONE star for a “bad” doctor who actually isn’t and did good NOT to prescribe an antibiotic for a virus...). And on. All that being said, I think we can pull thru. Too bad our forefathers only separated church and state. Healthcare woulda been good, too.
Separate and stupid thing we did. That sums it up perfectly. Except sadly, it's : separate and stupid we are doing.
Politicians must be seen to be doing something, even if it is totally ineffective. Then they will convince you against all evidence to the contrary that their intervention was effective.
Thank the gods for Dr. Prasad and others like him for speaking their minds, backed up by data, for years now. Hopefully the administration at UCSF don’t endlessly harass him for being something other than a worker drone.
I dunno, I could probably slaughter a LOT of chickens before that plane hit the ground, and if I was sacrificing them to Thor or something, the crash might be averted.
Just saying.
This is yet another example of a medical procedure/treatment that "obviously saves thousands of lives", but for which such a truism does not resist to scrutiny (e.g. RCTs). Among others, some studies have concluded that mechanical ventilation in SARS-Cov-2 induced ARDS is not associated with a lower mortality nor a better outcome in surviving patients. I, for one, was very clear to my spouse and children that I would refuse mechanical ventilation (but accept other forms of oxygenotherapy and prone positionning).
Also, don’t charge people for that chicken you slaughtered and forced them to pay for it.
So true.
Another simple truth.
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