You are missing the elephant in the room. How does the CDC *know* nobody has died from the mRNA vaccines? They have NEVER disclosed a single autopsy where the necessary testing was done. Similarly, Pfizer and Moderna never disclosed this information either. WHOOPS!
This of course explains how there can be hundreds of thousands excess deaths in VAERS that are impossible to explain if it wasn't the vaccine.
When are you going to talk about this? You've always danced around the elephant rather than confronting him.
How about a call with my VAERS experts?
Or even more objectively, how could the CDC miss the fact that PE rates in VAERS were elevated by over 1000-fold after the vaccines rolled out. Explain that one.
As I have pointed out before, Steve, Vinay does not appear to read these comments. They are just for our mutual self-education. So you will have to try some other route which, as with all your other noble forays, I expect will be ignored as well. But hope springs eternal.
I have written numerous comments and at least one direct email to Vinay Prasad trying to get him to read the most pertinent research articles on vitamin D, as cited in: "What every MD, immunologist, virologist and epidemiologist should know about vitamin D and the immune system": https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/ .
I have had no reply or any sign that he has done so. Multiple commenters have noted that there is no evidence the Vinay reads these comments.
I did the same for you and gave up some time ago. I have no indication that you have recognised that most people who do not properly supplement vitamin D3 (such as 0.125mg 5000 IU / day for 70 kg 154 lb bodyweight) have circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels of 5 to 25 ng/mL. 15 to 18 ng/ml are typical average levels for people who are hospitalised due to sepsis, COVID-19 etc. Please see the above link for the Quraishi et al. research in a Boston hospital with hundreds of surgery patients which shows that pre-operative 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels below 50 ng/mL cause rapidly increasing rates of post-operative and surgical site infection, due entirely to weakened innate and adaptive responses to primarily bacterial pathogens.
Such low 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels are normal, but not at all healthy. This is far more important than vaccines, vaccine injury, lockdowns and masks. Please read the above articles and this one on using a single oral dose of 1mg (for 70 kg bodyweight) calcifediol (which _is_ 25-hydroxyvitamin D) to boost circulating safely over 50 ng/mL in 4 hours. The ordinary daily intake just mentioned - 5000 UI a day, which is more than most doctors think is needed or even safe - takes about 3 months to attain this healthy level.
For the great majority of the population who do not properly supplement vitamin D3, this single oral dose of calcifediol (or bolus 10mg 400,000 IU vitamin D3, which raised 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels in about 4 days, due to the time it takes the liver to hydroxylate it) is by far the most important early or late treatment for COVID-19, sepsis, Kawasaki disease, MIS-C etc. This is far more important than ivermectin, fluvoxamine etc. all put together.
In the first web page you will find all the details of Castillo et al. 2020, in which a single oral dose of 0.532mg calcifediol (all bodyweights) was the primary reason for the stunning results of this RCT with hospitalised COVID-19 patients in Cordoba, Spain: ICU admissions dropped from 50% to 2% and deaths from 8% to zero. Some part of this was due to imperfect randomisation, but most was obviously due to boosting patient's circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels so their immune system could work properly - probably for the first time in their lives?
All sounds too simple? Too good to be true?? That's what lots of doctors think, dismissing vitamin D as another over-hyped nutrient. They haven't read Quraishi et al. 2020 or Chauss et al. 2021, who show how TH1 regulatory lymphocytes from the lungs of hospitalised COVID-19 patients remain stuck in their pro-inflammatory startup program, never responding to their circumstances by switching to the anti-inflammatory shutdown program, primarily or solely due to these cells not having enough 25-hydroxyvitamin D to run their intracrine (AKA, not quite accurately autocrine) internal signaling system.
As Vinay must know, there are many RCTs on N95s that show them to be generally not useful for viruses of this size...much less the ridiculous cloth and surgical masks. And that is if they are perfectly fitting. So saying something "works" because it caught more mosquitos in the slightly smaller chainlink is deceptive. Vinay is great, but has a blind spot for masking that even Gandhi has gotten past. But we must keep on trying. If you want to see an excellent N95 comparison graph from Germany where they have been required, this article makes it excruciatingly clear how silly the conversation is: https://ianmsc.substack.com/p/the-more-masks-fail-the-more-we-need?s=r
Many things should be studied. I am OK if people want to do even more mask studies. But there are many, many done and there is substantial empirical data from the fascinating experiment that is the federalism result of states having enormous latitudes in what they done. All of the data other than really, really bad studies where populations and data and conclusions were clearly cherry picked all show virtually no value. So why are we wasting time?
The other studies on when/how vaccines have value (and we need way more profound and basic ones than the ones he has listed, although they would be interesting, too) should all be done, and done urgently. And until then, all infusion of Spikeshots should be suspended except for the very, very old where keeping high antibody levels up under any rubric still seems to have some limited value (and they will not live long enough in almost all cases to see other effects that are likely to emerge).
But Vinay is one of the few saying anything contrarian, so still have to support him since he has one of the rare platforms that gets distribution. Just wish (as I said above) that the masking blind spot were not there. At least he has moved it from "any mask could be good" (where he started, even though we knew that was wrong) to "N95's could be good". That's some kind of progress, I suppose.
You make a good point about when is the best time to catch it since eventually we all will. I had a discussion with my kids doctor and we both agreed it was much better for them to get it now - they are young, active, healthy athletes - then when adults. They have been exposed constantly, even when I had it and have never caught it though (at least they always tested negative and never had symptoms). I was relieved when I got it in January. It was so mild I wouldn't even call it like a cold. It lasted less than half a day. I am glad to have some immunity. I haven't been vaccinated. Happy with my natural immunity. I think this pandemic would have been shorter if we'd just let the non-vulnerable kids (who will mostly be asymptomatic) catch it.
I repeat this everywhere. The UK challenge study showed about half of the volunteers NEVER got infected despite intentional exposure. Some of us are not susceptible.
I think so too. Nearly all my son's friends have had it. He slept in the same bed with a friend who got sick the next day and never caught it. He has been exposed so many times. Not trying to start a debate but every single one of his friends who fot it are vaccinated (most got it within 4 months of their 2nd dose). He is the only unvaccinated one.
Some suggest the vaccine disrupts the immune system. Had they not gotten vaccinated it's possible they would have never gotten ill. Omicron seem to create a more severe illness in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated. We are in a very large experiment with marginal data collection.
Had Xmas dinner with family indoors. About 4 hours altogether. I had covid (didn't realize it till I noticed symptoms that night then confirmed with a home test the following day). My family members all tested negative. Go figure.
To be contrarian....How do we know perfectly worn N95s work? Also, we definitely know they aren’t being worn perfectly of course. And it’s nigh impossible to do so for any length of time.
Steve Kirsch has a point. Tens of thousands of VAERS deaths and not a single CDC autopsy (that we know of)…not a single CDC admission of post-vax death.
Airplane protocols exhibit America's fixation on "theater". On my last flight, people around me were taking 30-45 minutes to consume their 11 mini pretzels and 3oz drink. Lights dim, masks become chin-straps. Thin veneer of public health. I do feel for immune-compromised, but don't think me wearing a cloth mask is protecting them. I went through Leukemia 26 years ago and understand their fears. Perhaps before the Bangladesh RCT data and before vaccines, I accommodated mask mandates, but in today's world, I find those that push cloth masks as anti-science folks. We have nice body of treatments, too. Just finished Wes Ely's "Every Deep Drawn Breath" and his stance on family visits that we (USA) prevented. He said something like "family visitation and connection" is medicine. I wish we'd listen to great doctors like you and Ely, rather than scare folks. Still so many folks not getting their CA screens around the country, especially ones that beat CA once/twice that are most risk due to fear propaganda.
You are missing the elephant in the room. How does the CDC *know* nobody has died from the mRNA vaccines? They have NEVER disclosed a single autopsy where the necessary testing was done. Similarly, Pfizer and Moderna never disclosed this information either. WHOOPS!
This of course explains how there can be hundreds of thousands excess deaths in VAERS that are impossible to explain if it wasn't the vaccine.
When are you going to talk about this? You've always danced around the elephant rather than confronting him.
How about a call with my VAERS experts?
Or even more objectively, how could the CDC miss the fact that PE rates in VAERS were elevated by over 1000-fold after the vaccines rolled out. Explain that one.
See: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-cdc-knew-in-january-2021-that?s=w
As I have pointed out before, Steve, Vinay does not appear to read these comments. They are just for our mutual self-education. So you will have to try some other route which, as with all your other noble forays, I expect will be ignored as well. But hope springs eternal.
Hi Steve,
I have written numerous comments and at least one direct email to Vinay Prasad trying to get him to read the most pertinent research articles on vitamin D, as cited in: "What every MD, immunologist, virologist and epidemiologist should know about vitamin D and the immune system": https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/ .
I have had no reply or any sign that he has done so. Multiple commenters have noted that there is no evidence the Vinay reads these comments.
I did the same for you and gave up some time ago. I have no indication that you have recognised that most people who do not properly supplement vitamin D3 (such as 0.125mg 5000 IU / day for 70 kg 154 lb bodyweight) have circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels of 5 to 25 ng/mL. 15 to 18 ng/ml are typical average levels for people who are hospitalised due to sepsis, COVID-19 etc. Please see the above link for the Quraishi et al. research in a Boston hospital with hundreds of surgery patients which shows that pre-operative 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels below 50 ng/mL cause rapidly increasing rates of post-operative and surgical site infection, due entirely to weakened innate and adaptive responses to primarily bacterial pathogens.
Such low 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels are normal, but not at all healthy. This is far more important than vaccines, vaccine injury, lockdowns and masks. Please read the above articles and this one on using a single oral dose of 1mg (for 70 kg bodyweight) calcifediol (which _is_ 25-hydroxyvitamin D) to boost circulating safely over 50 ng/mL in 4 hours. The ordinary daily intake just mentioned - 5000 UI a day, which is more than most doctors think is needed or even safe - takes about 3 months to attain this healthy level.
For the great majority of the population who do not properly supplement vitamin D3, this single oral dose of calcifediol (or bolus 10mg 400,000 IU vitamin D3, which raised 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels in about 4 days, due to the time it takes the liver to hydroxylate it) is by far the most important early or late treatment for COVID-19, sepsis, Kawasaki disease, MIS-C etc. This is far more important than ivermectin, fluvoxamine etc. all put together.
In the first web page you will find all the details of Castillo et al. 2020, in which a single oral dose of 0.532mg calcifediol (all bodyweights) was the primary reason for the stunning results of this RCT with hospitalised COVID-19 patients in Cordoba, Spain: ICU admissions dropped from 50% to 2% and deaths from 8% to zero. Some part of this was due to imperfect randomisation, but most was obviously due to boosting patient's circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels so their immune system could work properly - probably for the first time in their lives?
All sounds too simple? Too good to be true?? That's what lots of doctors think, dismissing vitamin D as another over-hyped nutrient. They haven't read Quraishi et al. 2020 or Chauss et al. 2021, who show how TH1 regulatory lymphocytes from the lungs of hospitalised COVID-19 patients remain stuck in their pro-inflammatory startup program, never responding to their circumstances by switching to the anti-inflammatory shutdown program, primarily or solely due to these cells not having enough 25-hydroxyvitamin D to run their intracrine (AKA, not quite accurately autocrine) internal signaling system.
thanks. I'll incorporate in a new article on treatment i'm working on.
Thanks Steve!
Thank you.
As Vinay must know, there are many RCTs on N95s that show them to be generally not useful for viruses of this size...much less the ridiculous cloth and surgical masks. And that is if they are perfectly fitting. So saying something "works" because it caught more mosquitos in the slightly smaller chainlink is deceptive. Vinay is great, but has a blind spot for masking that even Gandhi has gotten past. But we must keep on trying. If you want to see an excellent N95 comparison graph from Germany where they have been required, this article makes it excruciatingly clear how silly the conversation is: https://ianmsc.substack.com/p/the-more-masks-fail-the-more-we-need?s=r
Many things should be studied. I am OK if people want to do even more mask studies. But there are many, many done and there is substantial empirical data from the fascinating experiment that is the federalism result of states having enormous latitudes in what they done. All of the data other than really, really bad studies where populations and data and conclusions were clearly cherry picked all show virtually no value. So why are we wasting time?
The other studies on when/how vaccines have value (and we need way more profound and basic ones than the ones he has listed, although they would be interesting, too) should all be done, and done urgently. And until then, all infusion of Spikeshots should be suspended except for the very, very old where keeping high antibody levels up under any rubric still seems to have some limited value (and they will not live long enough in almost all cases to see other effects that are likely to emerge).
But Vinay is one of the few saying anything contrarian, so still have to support him since he has one of the rare platforms that gets distribution. Just wish (as I said above) that the masking blind spot were not there. At least he has moved it from "any mask could be good" (where he started, even though we knew that was wrong) to "N95's could be good". That's some kind of progress, I suppose.
You make a good point about when is the best time to catch it since eventually we all will. I had a discussion with my kids doctor and we both agreed it was much better for them to get it now - they are young, active, healthy athletes - then when adults. They have been exposed constantly, even when I had it and have never caught it though (at least they always tested negative and never had symptoms). I was relieved when I got it in January. It was so mild I wouldn't even call it like a cold. It lasted less than half a day. I am glad to have some immunity. I haven't been vaccinated. Happy with my natural immunity. I think this pandemic would have been shorter if we'd just let the non-vulnerable kids (who will mostly be asymptomatic) catch it.
I repeat this everywhere. The UK challenge study showed about half of the volunteers NEVER got infected despite intentional exposure. Some of us are not susceptible.
I think so too. Nearly all my son's friends have had it. He slept in the same bed with a friend who got sick the next day and never caught it. He has been exposed so many times. Not trying to start a debate but every single one of his friends who fot it are vaccinated (most got it within 4 months of their 2nd dose). He is the only unvaccinated one.
Some suggest the vaccine disrupts the immune system. Had they not gotten vaccinated it's possible they would have never gotten ill. Omicron seem to create a more severe illness in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated. We are in a very large experiment with marginal data collection.
Had Xmas dinner with family indoors. About 4 hours altogether. I had covid (didn't realize it till I noticed symptoms that night then confirmed with a home test the following day). My family members all tested negative. Go figure.
As long as I wear my KN95 mask and latex gloves at all times I will never catch it!
To be contrarian....How do we know perfectly worn N95s work? Also, we definitely know they aren’t being worn perfectly of course. And it’s nigh impossible to do so for any length of time.
If you look at CDC pronouncements on these matters, the strength of evidence comes to "mechanistically possible!"
Ya that’s all I’ve ever seen...what a joke!
Steve Kirsch has a point. Tens of thousands of VAERS deaths and not a single CDC autopsy (that we know of)…not a single CDC admission of post-vax death.
Elephants do t get bigger than that. 🤷♂️
Airplane protocols exhibit America's fixation on "theater". On my last flight, people around me were taking 30-45 minutes to consume their 11 mini pretzels and 3oz drink. Lights dim, masks become chin-straps. Thin veneer of public health. I do feel for immune-compromised, but don't think me wearing a cloth mask is protecting them. I went through Leukemia 26 years ago and understand their fears. Perhaps before the Bangladesh RCT data and before vaccines, I accommodated mask mandates, but in today's world, I find those that push cloth masks as anti-science folks. We have nice body of treatments, too. Just finished Wes Ely's "Every Deep Drawn Breath" and his stance on family visits that we (USA) prevented. He said something like "family visitation and connection" is medicine. I wish we'd listen to great doctors like you and Ely, rather than scare folks. Still so many folks not getting their CA screens around the country, especially ones that beat CA once/twice that are most risk due to fear propaganda.
Leads me to this : why doesn’t the CDC want us to know ?
Dr. Prasad: In case you missed this, it desperately needs to be broken down for mainstream: https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-twice-immunity-reinfection-vaccine-11651013266?st=mwawahnw5xo0f8w&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink