There's something I wish I could understand. Why this push to vaccinate everybody ? I'm not anti-vaxx, I got my shots, but I definitely can' t subscribe to "let's shot everybody, just because" policy. There are a lot of conflicting studies floating around. Whatever you want to make the case, that vaccines are 100% safe, ot that they killed 150k+ people, statistically, you can make it. VAERS data, Pfizer initial studies, etc. So, until we have a more definitive conclusion , why? To avoid being able to have a control group? I'm strugling to come with a reasonable explanation. Stratified risk analysis is long gone. We're just a dumb herd that has the right to do what it's told, because science. Shut up.
CNN's Anderson Cooper was interviewing Bill Gates this week and they discussed cutting off federal benefits to the unvaccinated. The two of them were simply gleeful - especially Bill Gates. I bet a friend the other day that at some point in 2022 he will be asked to report me as being unvaccinated and I will be arrested - he didn't think it could happen in the US. I beg to differ.
The day Vinay crossed the Rubicon by calling out Walensky's denial of myocarditis signals in 5-11 was the day I really started to feel optimistic that a critical mass of credentialed, respected people will put their careers on the line to share rapier criticism of (and heterodox scientific takes on) this endless, manipulative scientism. Thank you, Vinay!
The only key endpoint that seems to be missing from this great take is perhaps the ultimate goal: no jab, no vote.
And I cannot find a pharmacist who will fill a fluvoxamine prescription. With the monoclonals on pause I have nothing to offer a higher risk patient to help keep them out of the hospital. The whole thing is disgusting.
I have had similar thoughts about carrying out the logic of maladaptive covid policies with my own recommendations. If we truly want to save lives and we are all in this together, then lets ban all recreational drugs, except caffeine; junk food, fast food and mandate 3 hours of exercise per week. These measures would save many more lives than wearing a mask while walking through a restaurant or vaccinating a 5 year old. Of course I'm not serious, but if we were to effect the reasoning for silly covid mandates to the rest of life, then we should be consistent and do the above. The above takes individual sacrifice and denial of will, not just exertion of power over others.
Dear Vinay. They already want all those. The principles of social change demand a slow boil of the frog with cycles of intensification/release to better subdue the citizenry. This is fundamental social policy puppetry. There is only one victor here, and it's not the public, since transmission and mutations continue. No, the only victor is Big Pharma.
Today Another ding to the already abysmal CDC reputation as a trusted source of credible information as it makes a “correction” to Omicron from >70% new cases to now 22% . CMS , in another policy reversal, announced Tuesday that it will start re-enforcing its vaccine mandate in half the U.S. states where the mandate hasn’t been judicially enjoined. CMS set a new thirty-day deadline, conditioning hospital Medicare funding on whether employees receive their first shot within the next 30 days — that is, no later than January 27.
Great timing, don’t you think? While hospitalizations are spiking in New York and other states, CMS is forcing hospitals to fire up the layoff engine again. Makes perfect sense. Big government at its best.
Hopefully the Supreme Court can weigh in before the new deadline arrives.
"Mandates to use social media? If you don’t scan a vaccine card into Facebook or Twitter within 24 hours, your account will deactivate." Nah, FB isn't going to give up the option to collect all of our peronal information.
Come on Doc - You know the reasons. The various mitigations have not worked. The vaccine is now not working. The authorities are asked by the public to do something; they have; it doesn't work; transfer blame. Rather than admit many of these ideas are failing they must find a reason outside of the ideas. So now the vaccine was never expected to be 100% is spin on the about 30% effective after our immune system recovers from the vaccine.
Does anyone else here feel, like me, that we are literally living in Bizzaro World? As one of many, many examples, nobody seems to care at all that the CDC no longer considers the PCR test as being valid to detect COVID-19:
That was posted back in July 2021. It's effective starting today. The entire determination of the "pandemic" (how many people have it, how many died from it, etc.) has been based on the PCR test that we were told is the "gold standard" and rarely ever gives a false positive or negative. Now the CDC says the PCR test can't differentiate between COVID and the flu. We were told that virtually nobody got the flu last winter but this was because (insert completely made up "explanation" sold as scientific, irrefutable fact) but now we know that the flu was being reported as COVID.
I explain this to friends and family members and they either literally stare at me with no response (you can see the gears turning though with thoughts like, "I never would have guessed you were anti-science") or they say things like, "But 700K Americans have died from COVID!" How did we determine that number? With the PCR test, of course!
Thank you for this. Mandate madness will run amuck until we say no. That’s not easy to do but one way to start is to demand, no wait, mandate good data on how these vaccines are working relative to a changing virus. The public deserves to know the data on breakthrough cases, hospitalizations and deaths reported weekly, transparently and in a uniform unit fashion. As it stands now the really crappy data the CDC pops up has a month lag, and it reports rates per population. There are no discoverable raw numbers available to the public essentially blocking any independent analysis. Where is the “science” in that? So where does CDC get its data on BTIs? From the states. To find more recent data on BTIs one must go into individual county and state DPH websites and even then the majority have it buried in some back room equivalent tab like “healthy living” and not on the CV19 dashboard where it belongs. This is assuming a DPH publicly reports that information at all. Some just don’t. Why? One hypothesis floated was “it can be used by the anti vaccine movement.” How about using that data to follow trends? To determine whether mandates are needed at all? Or god forbid we course correct? Don’t we want to track the effectiveness of these “legacy vaccines” against delta and omicron? Don’t we want to know when breakthrough hospitalizations are rising? And be able to compare rates between the delta and omicron waves? Unfortunately the answer is no, sigh, we will not follow this science it does not support our mandate narrative.
Mandates have no meaning if we know transmission still occurs and that vaccinated people are getting sick following vaccination and boosting with outdated legacy vaccines. How sick and what’s the trend is really hard to find. But perhaps that is by design. Mandate data transparency.
"Vaccinate the entire population" is not only unattainable, but may have negative efficacy. A very interesting paper by Canaday et al. shows that for those naturally infected with Covid and then got vaccinated, their neutralizing Abs wane much quicker compared to control.
There's something I wish I could understand. Why this push to vaccinate everybody ? I'm not anti-vaxx, I got my shots, but I definitely can' t subscribe to "let's shot everybody, just because" policy. There are a lot of conflicting studies floating around. Whatever you want to make the case, that vaccines are 100% safe, ot that they killed 150k+ people, statistically, you can make it. VAERS data, Pfizer initial studies, etc. So, until we have a more definitive conclusion , why? To avoid being able to have a control group? I'm strugling to come with a reasonable explanation. Stratified risk analysis is long gone. We're just a dumb herd that has the right to do what it's told, because science. Shut up.
CNN's Anderson Cooper was interviewing Bill Gates this week and they discussed cutting off federal benefits to the unvaccinated. The two of them were simply gleeful - especially Bill Gates. I bet a friend the other day that at some point in 2022 he will be asked to report me as being unvaccinated and I will be arrested - he didn't think it could happen in the US. I beg to differ.
The day Vinay crossed the Rubicon by calling out Walensky's denial of myocarditis signals in 5-11 was the day I really started to feel optimistic that a critical mass of credentialed, respected people will put their careers on the line to share rapier criticism of (and heterodox scientific takes on) this endless, manipulative scientism. Thank you, Vinay!
The only key endpoint that seems to be missing from this great take is perhaps the ultimate goal: no jab, no vote.
And I cannot find a pharmacist who will fill a fluvoxamine prescription. With the monoclonals on pause I have nothing to offer a higher risk patient to help keep them out of the hospital. The whole thing is disgusting.
I have had similar thoughts about carrying out the logic of maladaptive covid policies with my own recommendations. If we truly want to save lives and we are all in this together, then lets ban all recreational drugs, except caffeine; junk food, fast food and mandate 3 hours of exercise per week. These measures would save many more lives than wearing a mask while walking through a restaurant or vaccinating a 5 year old. Of course I'm not serious, but if we were to effect the reasoning for silly covid mandates to the rest of life, then we should be consistent and do the above. The above takes individual sacrifice and denial of will, not just exertion of power over others.
Dear Vinay. They already want all those. The principles of social change demand a slow boil of the frog with cycles of intensification/release to better subdue the citizenry. This is fundamental social policy puppetry. There is only one victor here, and it's not the public, since transmission and mutations continue. No, the only victor is Big Pharma.
Today Another ding to the already abysmal CDC reputation as a trusted source of credible information as it makes a “correction” to Omicron from >70% new cases to now 22% . CMS , in another policy reversal, announced Tuesday that it will start re-enforcing its vaccine mandate in half the U.S. states where the mandate hasn’t been judicially enjoined. CMS set a new thirty-day deadline, conditioning hospital Medicare funding on whether employees receive their first shot within the next 30 days — that is, no later than January 27.
Great timing, don’t you think? While hospitalizations are spiking in New York and other states, CMS is forcing hospitals to fire up the layoff engine again. Makes perfect sense. Big government at its best.
Hopefully the Supreme Court can weigh in before the new deadline arrives.
Satire is a dangerous game in 2021. Giving some people ideas. A Modest Proposal if written today may be taken as a policy suggestion.
"Mandates to use social media? If you don’t scan a vaccine card into Facebook or Twitter within 24 hours, your account will deactivate." Nah, FB isn't going to give up the option to collect all of our peronal information.
"Why should the unvaccinated get access to freeways— it’s just another way to spread the virus, anyway."
Genius!
"No Jab, No Jolt" - also genius.
Come on Doc - You know the reasons. The various mitigations have not worked. The vaccine is now not working. The authorities are asked by the public to do something; they have; it doesn't work; transfer blame. Rather than admit many of these ideas are failing they must find a reason outside of the ideas. So now the vaccine was never expected to be 100% is spin on the about 30% effective after our immune system recovers from the vaccine.
They can admit no wrong.
Does anyone else here feel, like me, that we are literally living in Bizzaro World? As one of many, many examples, nobody seems to care at all that the CDC no longer considers the PCR test as being valid to detect COVID-19:
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html
That was posted back in July 2021. It's effective starting today. The entire determination of the "pandemic" (how many people have it, how many died from it, etc.) has been based on the PCR test that we were told is the "gold standard" and rarely ever gives a false positive or negative. Now the CDC says the PCR test can't differentiate between COVID and the flu. We were told that virtually nobody got the flu last winter but this was because (insert completely made up "explanation" sold as scientific, irrefutable fact) but now we know that the flu was being reported as COVID.
I explain this to friends and family members and they either literally stare at me with no response (you can see the gears turning though with thoughts like, "I never would have guessed you were anti-science") or they say things like, "But 700K Americans have died from COVID!" How did we determine that number? With the PCR test, of course!
Thank you for this. Mandate madness will run amuck until we say no. That’s not easy to do but one way to start is to demand, no wait, mandate good data on how these vaccines are working relative to a changing virus. The public deserves to know the data on breakthrough cases, hospitalizations and deaths reported weekly, transparently and in a uniform unit fashion. As it stands now the really crappy data the CDC pops up has a month lag, and it reports rates per population. There are no discoverable raw numbers available to the public essentially blocking any independent analysis. Where is the “science” in that? So where does CDC get its data on BTIs? From the states. To find more recent data on BTIs one must go into individual county and state DPH websites and even then the majority have it buried in some back room equivalent tab like “healthy living” and not on the CV19 dashboard where it belongs. This is assuming a DPH publicly reports that information at all. Some just don’t. Why? One hypothesis floated was “it can be used by the anti vaccine movement.” How about using that data to follow trends? To determine whether mandates are needed at all? Or god forbid we course correct? Don’t we want to track the effectiveness of these “legacy vaccines” against delta and omicron? Don’t we want to know when breakthrough hospitalizations are rising? And be able to compare rates between the delta and omicron waves? Unfortunately the answer is no, sigh, we will not follow this science it does not support our mandate narrative.
Mandates have no meaning if we know transmission still occurs and that vaccinated people are getting sick following vaccination and boosting with outdated legacy vaccines. How sick and what’s the trend is really hard to find. But perhaps that is by design. Mandate data transparency.
"Vaccinate the entire population" is not only unattainable, but may have negative efficacy. A very interesting paper by Canaday et al. shows that for those naturally infected with Covid and then got vaccinated, their neutralizing Abs wane much quicker compared to control.
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab963/6432026
This is your scariest post yet.
Outdoor summer camp in Maine is mandating the vaccine for my 8 old!