If, like men, pharmaceutical interventions are judged by the company they keep...... then the silver lining for me of Covid and the circus, groupthink, criminality (just wait on that one) that have been Covid vaccines is this: it has awakened me to live to the extent possible that I am going to be done with ALL the drugs forever.
Totally. I only got one once---I mean, not everyone even does it every year!! & After all this ummmmm never again. Honestly it’s making me second guess all the vaccines. I wasn’t anti-vax when I chose not to take this covid one. More and more, though, I might be leaning to that. Very suspicious.
Thank you. Dr. Marty Markary liked Jeremy Fausts’ tweet comparing annual flu shots to 4th dose and no one has called him on it. My support of public health, and the medical community, is frankly lost forever.
Very strange given that he has Re Tweeted this very post, and 8-10 other tweets heavily criticizing the notion of a fourth dose. Including at least 4 recent ones by VP. Who the hell knows? Granted, it's a bad idea to put anyone on a pedestal. But it's also a bad idea to write anyone off "forever" based on a single click on a single Like button.
This year's flu shot was 16% effective...that is the same as not effective at all. I have heard people say "well 16% better than nothing". I don't agree and I do not take them. But the premise for the flu shot is that it is anticipatory for next year's projected flu. The fact that they are always wrong should dawn on folks eventually, so hear! hear! to Vinay's suggestion that this be re-evaluated.
Even stupider, most health care institutions will let you exempt yourself from flu, but then "wear a mask" even though this has been repeatedly shown to be utterly useless vis-à-vis the flu specifically (in addition to vis-à-vis Covid). But none will let you exempt yourself from covid because that is government mandate. The mandators should all be fired/jailed or worse IMO. But irrespective, the cases are completely different.
Vinay is getting pithier and increasingly more pointed as he gets increasingly disgusted. Just need to get him off his "masks are bioplausible" (and geocentriciy was geoplausible, too) shtick and we will be just about there.
And Makary should be ashamed. He has ventured out some, but is still way short of Vinay in terms of confronting the truth.
Same!! In my VERY restricted county there are virtually no MDs who have spoken up publicly like this….no need for YouTube or Substack…just speak the truth to patients & the nuances & lack of evidence for boosting young people, etc.! It’s mind boggling! My child’s Ped. Rolled her eyes (behind the exam room door of course…) when we spoke about how crazy we thought it was that our kids had to be masked while on recess at school….she was like “ I know… I know… This makes no sense…“ THEN WHY DONT YOU & YOUR MD GROUP AT LARGE ADVISE PUBLIC HEALTH ON WHAT MAKES THE MOST LOGICAL SENSE…BASED ON EVIDENCE OF LACK OF VIRAL TRANSMISSION WHEN OUTSIDE??!!”….of course she/they never did. I hope VP inspires others who are in his same position to speak out. I’m glad that he isn’t being as polite as he was being a year ago…blunt is necessary!
I suspect our good doctor might be being pressured to take a fourth shot himself. And he’s starting to see what this is all really about! The only issue I have with this piece is the “should get vaccinated” in regards to older people. Otherwise, please continue to belabour the other points!!!
Thanks so much, Dr. Prasad, for all you do to get factual information out for lay people like me. I'm almost 66 and in the past 2.5 years have gotten one flu vaccine (my only flu vaccination) and 2 doses of the Pfizer COVID vaccine. After all that's happened surrounding COVID, I now have ZERO confidence in Big Pharma, the FDA, the CDC and Dr. Fauci. I WILL NEVER GET ANOTHER VACCINE. It has everything to do with these agencies lying to us, changing the rules, putting profit ahead of everything, not following any sort of science, etc.
Amen VP!! 👏👏👏 Each & every time you have the chance to wake one more person out of the stupor…. Someone who is in the medical field or not. We all know many in the medical field who are stupidly following along and continue not to question or make a mark at all in this issue….therefore giving healthy patients under age 65 continued recommendations for boosters… 3rd …& sure why not a 4th?! Idiotic. I wonder if some legal movements like mal-practice when adverse events occur….will be the thing that makes many providers wake up to what they should’ve done… what evidence or lack there of that they should’ve looked into more before recc. MORE boosters… What they should’ve spoken up about more?! Something has to give. Someone needs to pay the price…& it shouldn’t be the patients.
I'll bet even if the majority of people within an institution like a school or business want to get rid of the mandates, there's so much bureaucratic sclerosis that it'll take months and months of "review committees" to do it. Or maybe administration will just figure it'll be easier to leave in place.
A recent job I took mandated vaccines even though it was purely online. I asked HR why when I came in to file some paperwork, and they had no answer for me.
"Gleeful delusion" is apt, and it's also pretty much diametrically opposed to "a society that is intelligent." We've seen it before: the siren song of lucre will lead many to undermine the basic tenets of science and democracy.
I agree with most of your views. I am thrilled about the fact that you have the courage to present your views disregarding pressure for conformity in academia. One would expect such rational views to be more common among professionals educated in biology and medicine but unfortunately it is not. I think annual flu shots are also hyped. The benefit it offers is likely to be negligible or non-existent if one were to do a study. These became norm before the advent of social media, so it escaped the counter arguments and demands for evidence that COVID boosters are getting today. Most economically disadvantaged countries in the world do not have this annual flu shot culture and you don't hear many people dying of flu there due to lack of annual flu shots. It is a good candidate for reversal.
Again, thank you for being clear "Let me say clearly: this argument is stupid." I'm so tired of people using words like "non truth" because they don't want to say "lies" Stupid may be as stupid does, but it's certainly crystal clear when you said "argument is stupid"!
Dr Prasad, I am wondering if you have looked at the studies regarding BCG for COVID prevention and respiratory infections in general for those over 65?
The comparison to flu shots makes me never want to get a flu shot again. At this point, I assume they’re as evidence free as “boosters”.
Yep. I'm done with Flu shots forever.
If, like men, pharmaceutical interventions are judged by the company they keep...... then the silver lining for me of Covid and the circus, groupthink, criminality (just wait on that one) that have been Covid vaccines is this: it has awakened me to live to the extent possible that I am going to be done with ALL the drugs forever.
Totally. I only got one once---I mean, not everyone even does it every year!! & After all this ummmmm never again. Honestly it’s making me second guess all the vaccines. I wasn’t anti-vax when I chose not to take this covid one. More and more, though, I might be leaning to that. Very suspicious.
Thank you. Dr. Marty Markary liked Jeremy Fausts’ tweet comparing annual flu shots to 4th dose and no one has called him on it. My support of public health, and the medical community, is frankly lost forever.
Very strange given that he has Re Tweeted this very post, and 8-10 other tweets heavily criticizing the notion of a fourth dose. Including at least 4 recent ones by VP. Who the hell knows? Granted, it's a bad idea to put anyone on a pedestal. But it's also a bad idea to write anyone off "forever" based on a single click on a single Like button.
This year's flu shot was 16% effective...that is the same as not effective at all. I have heard people say "well 16% better than nothing". I don't agree and I do not take them. But the premise for the flu shot is that it is anticipatory for next year's projected flu. The fact that they are always wrong should dawn on folks eventually, so hear! hear! to Vinay's suggestion that this be re-evaluated.
Even stupider, most health care institutions will let you exempt yourself from flu, but then "wear a mask" even though this has been repeatedly shown to be utterly useless vis-à-vis the flu specifically (in addition to vis-à-vis Covid). But none will let you exempt yourself from covid because that is government mandate. The mandators should all be fired/jailed or worse IMO. But irrespective, the cases are completely different.
Vinay is getting pithier and increasingly more pointed as he gets increasingly disgusted. Just need to get him off his "masks are bioplausible" (and geocentriciy was geoplausible, too) shtick and we will be just about there.
And Makary should be ashamed. He has ventured out some, but is still way short of Vinay in terms of confronting the truth.
Vinay’s approach, both tonally & data analysis-wise is refreshing & unfortunately rare. Grateful for him.
Same!! In my VERY restricted county there are virtually no MDs who have spoken up publicly like this….no need for YouTube or Substack…just speak the truth to patients & the nuances & lack of evidence for boosting young people, etc.! It’s mind boggling! My child’s Ped. Rolled her eyes (behind the exam room door of course…) when we spoke about how crazy we thought it was that our kids had to be masked while on recess at school….she was like “ I know… I know… This makes no sense…“ THEN WHY DONT YOU & YOUR MD GROUP AT LARGE ADVISE PUBLIC HEALTH ON WHAT MAKES THE MOST LOGICAL SENSE…BASED ON EVIDENCE OF LACK OF VIRAL TRANSMISSION WHEN OUTSIDE??!!”….of course she/they never did. I hope VP inspires others who are in his same position to speak out. I’m glad that he isn’t being as polite as he was being a year ago…blunt is necessary!
I suspect our good doctor might be being pressured to take a fourth shot himself. And he’s starting to see what this is all really about! The only issue I have with this piece is the “should get vaccinated” in regards to older people. Otherwise, please continue to belabour the other points!!!
Thanks so much, Dr. Prasad, for all you do to get factual information out for lay people like me. I'm almost 66 and in the past 2.5 years have gotten one flu vaccine (my only flu vaccination) and 2 doses of the Pfizer COVID vaccine. After all that's happened surrounding COVID, I now have ZERO confidence in Big Pharma, the FDA, the CDC and Dr. Fauci. I WILL NEVER GET ANOTHER VACCINE. It has everything to do with these agencies lying to us, changing the rules, putting profit ahead of everything, not following any sort of science, etc.
Amen VP!! 👏👏👏 Each & every time you have the chance to wake one more person out of the stupor…. Someone who is in the medical field or not. We all know many in the medical field who are stupidly following along and continue not to question or make a mark at all in this issue….therefore giving healthy patients under age 65 continued recommendations for boosters… 3rd …& sure why not a 4th?! Idiotic. I wonder if some legal movements like mal-practice when adverse events occur….will be the thing that makes many providers wake up to what they should’ve done… what evidence or lack there of that they should’ve looked into more before recc. MORE boosters… What they should’ve spoken up about more?! Something has to give. Someone needs to pay the price…& it shouldn’t be the patients.
I'll bet even if the majority of people within an institution like a school or business want to get rid of the mandates, there's so much bureaucratic sclerosis that it'll take months and months of "review committees" to do it. Or maybe administration will just figure it'll be easier to leave in place.
A recent job I took mandated vaccines even though it was purely online. I asked HR why when I came in to file some paperwork, and they had no answer for me.
"Gleeful delusion" is apt, and it's also pretty much diametrically opposed to "a society that is intelligent." We've seen it before: the siren song of lucre will lead many to undermine the basic tenets of science and democracy.
You are appropriately hard-hitting against the stupid "arguments" put forward for a 4th dose.
I agree with most of your views. I am thrilled about the fact that you have the courage to present your views disregarding pressure for conformity in academia. One would expect such rational views to be more common among professionals educated in biology and medicine but unfortunately it is not. I think annual flu shots are also hyped. The benefit it offers is likely to be negligible or non-existent if one were to do a study. These became norm before the advent of social media, so it escaped the counter arguments and demands for evidence that COVID boosters are getting today. Most economically disadvantaged countries in the world do not have this annual flu shot culture and you don't hear many people dying of flu there due to lack of annual flu shots. It is a good candidate for reversal.
Again, thank you for being clear "Let me say clearly: this argument is stupid." I'm so tired of people using words like "non truth" because they don't want to say "lies" Stupid may be as stupid does, but it's certainly crystal clear when you said "argument is stupid"!
I'm in that 65+ group and when questioned about any booster, I have questions.
Repeated administration of a PEGylated adjuvant that also acts as a surfactant? Data please?
Studies on occurrence of adjuvant binding at Very Long Fatty Acid receptors in the pancreas? Any info.?
Movement into the CNS and brain due to it's surfactant quality?
Is there a panel available for the AHBL Syndrome? For those not familiar - All Hell Breaks Loose.
Great article Vinay, as usual! Makes a lot of sense.
The line about auditioning for the admin was perfect. Well done.
Thank you as always.
Dr Prasad, I am wondering if you have looked at the studies regarding BCG for COVID prevention and respiratory infections in general for those over 65?