IMO,you knocked it out of the park,yet again,Vinay! Reasonable people should be able to discuss their differences of opinion.How else can we arrive at the truth?
As a person injured by a flu vaccine, I chose to delay my newborn son's vaccination schedule. At 10 years old our healthy active helpful incredibly verbal boy received his first mmr - and immediately had a severe neurological response - becoming agitated and twitching at the "bugs crawling under his skin" while his torso rashed over. Doc said - you must have made him nervous. 2 mo later at 2nd dose, he had the same and worse - and began having trouble reading writing in school. (Previously he was doing both well, performing well-above average for his fourth grade classmates, talking about becoming a legal historian). Some days after 2nd dose he passed out at a school concert. We also began seeing extreme anxiety and other behavior changes. Doc said - can't be the vaccine! But - Wow- you must have really made him nervous about vaccination. 3 mo later - because we had to keep up with vaccine schedule! - he rec'd varicella. Again- immediately he was describing skin crawling and couldn't settle. He spent a day rocking in his chair. He was ultimately unable to stay in school that September. We had to suspend any plans to continue vaccine schedule, so school decided we were religious homeschooling and stopped answering our requests for homework. We just wanted help to keep him connected to his class while we figured out how to stop the panic attacks and body tics. Doc said- maybe talk to a PANS-Y doctor? See if he has an infection that I can't see? By December of 2019 our child couldn't leave his room or wear anything other than 1 pair of sweats and either of 2 shirts. The PANS doc found no pathogen- and said-I don't recommend any more vaccines for this child, but I can't write a medical exemption for licensing reasons. Maybe you can move? And - would you like to supply your son's DNA for my research? That'll be $2500 after our discount. Fast forward 5 years - now we're back in a PANS flare of unknown trigger - though that is the way of this permanent autoimmune condition - and we're seeing OCD and anxiety that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Doc says- how's that CBT going? But no one can unlock how to stop the autoimmune brain-on-fire. And without that solution, no amount of CBT can push back on the destruction of severe OCD. Is this "autism " ? Or shall we call it "neurodiversity" and sell t-shirts celebrating my son's new normal? Forgive my tone - but I have real impatience for the simpleton summary that "vaccines don't cause---" And from what I've read if the literature designed and paid for by vaccine patent holders...? There have been plenty of games played, but very little EBM. Please, Dr. P; can you really believe that all we parents of damaged children are crazy, ignorant or otherwise misinformed by what we've had to learn??
So sorry. Similar story here--healthy/normal 2 YO overnight PANS onset post Hep A vax. Searched for years--told couldn't be vax 'it's one of the good ones'. Didn't want to believe it myself bc always was pro-vax. Finally got dx and great MD (w/ 2 pans kids herself) started talking about aluminum adjuvant and neurotoxicity. Many months of research into schedule later I was horrified by what I learned. Pls Vinay if you are reading: all the so-called 'debunking' of MMR did not use a true placebo--neurotoxic aluminum and excipients were included in the 'control'! This is absurd to anyone familiar with the pharmacokinetics of injected aluminum (preferential affinity for fatty tissue--brain and liver--so immune system attacks brain in an attempt to remove it, causing neuroinflammation. This is among other harms of injected aluminum)--esp in the cumulative doses injected to infants or to anyone with metabolic detox impairment (so many of us these days.) The massive increase in total vaccines since 1986 is also hugely questionable. As for us, after years of trying every abx and supplement under the sun (with definite improvement but not sustained) we finally found healing with homeopathy. I was reluctant (too woo-woo)--boy was I wrong. I only wish we had done it the day he was diagnosed. Conventional medicine generally only suppresses symptoms. We must have a reckoning about the exploding vaccine schedule and what we are exposing our children too and it has to start with acknowledging that the so-called 'research debunking the harms' is massively insufficient and that we must have independent, placebo-controlled trials and must look at the schedule in totality.
We're wishing we could get our 15yr old on board with homeopathy (this cured my migraines) - But he's full-on refusal mode with this flare- we can't get him to believe anything will work. We're at a very dark doorstep with this. We know PANS kids struggle with this can’t-do-the-biology-fix-’cause-brain-on-fire, but it's an absolute nightmare living through it nonetheless. Some days I'm so exhausted that I can't even raise the curiosity to explore how little curiosity people seem to have about this….
I agree with you a lot. So much resentment was fostered by how much our debate was controlled. People say that free speech is a threat? What about shutting people up?
During the pandemic, a vast majority of people in various positions of power chose to silence and even force jabs rather than let people debate and make up their own minds.
As Vinay has already basically said, to the extent that RFK is their nightmare -- the people who wanted to silence and jab were the ones that created the context for that nightmare to emerge. Had free and open debate been allowed and even controversial points taken seriously in good faith, he would not have emerged as a power figure, I am almost entirely certain.
RFK is alright. We should look into every controversy he brings up rather than just shutting him down. Do the studies that he thinks we need to do in good faith. Answering the people's questions, rather then telling them to shut up and trust the science, is THE ONLY WAY to establish trust in science.
"Sit down and shut up" does not work. It makes things worse. Enacting the will of the people is the only way we can have a fair society, and that is exactly the opposite of what happened. Now they pay and we move.
"Here I think if RFK Jr wants to discourage MMR— that is a bridge too far because no one does that."
I am SHOCKED to see this printed! First, if you have been reading ANYTHING about the vaccine industry, you would be as clear as clear can be that universal acceptance of vaccination is controlled by powerful financial forces and has NOTHING to do with the merits of the vaccine. Secondly, RFK Jr. has repeated AD NAUSEAM, that he does NOT oppose ANY vaccination but is only in favor of INFORMED CONSENT about vaccines including MMR. Also, you ignore the study done by CDC which they tried to cover up showing increased of autism in black boys receiving MMR. I recommend you call up Dr. Thompson or Dr. Brian Hooker for details. Come on Vinay, you have got to do better than this!
From my perspective as a physician, I am open to looking behind the curtain on all of this. I was shocked when I initially heard the podcast with Tracy Hoeg (on Sensible Medicine) comparing US childhood vaccine schedule to that of Denmark. When I realized other modern, industrialized countries limited certain vaccines, it brought up questions. Why do we just accept what is being put to us with no question or debate? what are the competing values here? Do we all agree? should there be more transparency?
The backbone of medicine used to be honest and vigorous debate and discussion. over the past decade that has become problematic and suppressed by elitist physicians. I'm not completely sure why. Gender ideology and transgender medicine is a glaring example. Covid really sparked the flame and now we can't discuss much of anything. During Covid, physicians divided down the middle. "Misinformation" became the catchphrase to shut down debate. It broke along political party lines, for the most part, though some formerly liberal physicians who hold truth and data to a higher standard and aren't as affected by emotion, started to shift away from liberal democrats. The liberal physicians spent the entire pandemic wrapping themselves in the cloak of "moral correctness" and virtue signaling at any opportunity: "I'm a doctor! Don't drink bleach!" "the Unvaccinated are murderers" "I'm masking to protect YOU" "get every covid booster" and the most egregious - "vaccines don't have side effects!" Amongst all of this, I could clearly see for the first time, the direct pipeline of money to Pharma (Pfizer!) and realized how much influence these special interests have with our politicians (and therefore policies). The push for Paxlovid and vaccine were clearly being driven by financial interest.
It is also interesting that every Trump decision and pick is scrutinized in infinite detail with clearly negative bias. The current HHS secretary is not a physician or a health expert in any way, shape, or form. He is a lawyer and career politician. I don't recall ANY question or concern with that choice. From my experience of our local legislators and state government, I've come to realize that the people on the committees, who vote on major decisions that affect local medical care, have no knowledge or experience in medicine! Sobering.
I agree with Vinay. Let's have a more measured reaction to this and see how things go. At least RFK has made a career out of some focus on medical issues, health - he is raising some valid points and questions. We may not agree with every idea, and we don't know that he'll push every personal idea he's had (and there are instances where his actual beliefs have been misrepresented). There will be other voices involved. But I do think America, US medicine, US health needs some disruption.
I agree with most of your post, but wanted to point out that Becerra does have relevant experience. HHS is a large department, which covers three main terrains: 1) public health insurance programs (Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare); 2) public health and health research agencies (eg, FDA, CDC, NIH, AHRQ); and 3) TANF and other poverty programs.
Becerra has lots of experience with the first area, health insurance, as a long time member of the Ways and Means Health Subcommittee (including being ranking member), and as Attorney General for CA. He knows not just the policy issues but also the politics, which is important for that position.
It’s not unusual for HHS Secretary picks to come from the health insurance or human services side of the world. That was the case for Sebelius, for example, and many others in recent years. In fact, I think at least in recent years it would likely be more unusual to pick someone from the public health/scientific side.
That being said, I agree with your broader point that having a lawyer lead the agency is not in itself a problem.
If RFK is confirmed, I think the most important thing is that he select highly skilled and ethical scientist/physicians to lead the FDA, CDC, and NIH. Hoping Dr Prasad will be one of them!
Yes, I fully understand your point. My main point is all the pundits, liberal influencers, and many physicians who are up in arms about "he's not even a doctor!" are completely biased. The examination always goes in one direction.
My personal opinion, after much study and observation of what we're hearing lately, is that career politicians are over-represented in top tier government positions and are very insular in their way of viewing the world and the milieu they function within. Over the decades, this has led to much of the dysfunction, waste, and gridlock we are involved with. The medical field a prime example. I do think disruption is needed.
With our aging population and lower birth rates, we don't have much time to try to "fix" healthcare. Otherwise it just breaks over the next 10 years. Its already got deep cracks.
A Federal judge (an Obama appointee) in San Francisco has already told the EPA that fluoride levels in water are too high and that the evidence strongly indicates that these levels are harmful to children. He's expecting the EPA to act on his ruling. Blue cities aren't going to have a choice. I know people are talking about RFKJ in relation to this, but this ruling happened before the election and I don't understand why Vinay doesn't seem to know about it.
"Chen said he left it up to the EPA which of a number of options the agency could take in response to his ruling. They range from a warning label about fluoride's risks at current levels to taking steps towards tightening restrictions on its addition to drinking water."
Absolutely correct. That ruling was years in the making.
And why doesn't anyone stop to ask WHY we are medicating every man woman and child with a medication that is used to treat hyperthyroidism???? We all have a thyroid and some of us are hypothyroid already.
Would we put birth control pills into the water? Would we put estrogen into the water and see what happens to the men??
First, "conspiracy theorist" is right up there with "racist", "believe the science" and "Wolf !" It has long been a pejorative term used to dismiss and ridicule those with alternate explanations other than those force fed by the left.
I am a dentist anesthesiologist (dental specialty now ADA recognized) and graduated dental school in 1982. At that time a friend who became a lawyer laughed and said there were no cavities. I opposed the addition of fluoride to the water in Oneida, NY a few years ago where I practiced for many years - because the epidemic of caries and periodontal disease we are now seeing is caused by diet and poor oral plaque control.
Regarding raw milk, there is an argument that the calcium is more absorbable with raw milk because enzymes are destroyed in pasteurized milk.
I've tried raw milk. It's good. I don't buy a lot of it, but I can believe that it has greater nutritional value and would be a probiotic. But because there's been such a focus on safety in California, the producers are VERY VERY careful to keep everything sanitary and some even test every batch. People's fears over raw milk are not in line with reality right now.
Agreed and the government raids on the Amish farm over raw milk and other government insertion into their way of life led to the huge mobilization of this group to vote for Trump/Vance as typically this group doesn’t participate in elections.
And we are starting to see we don't even know the true motivation of many government policies. Special interest and $$ play such a huge role. We think things are always done to "protect us" - now it is clear that is not always the case. Follow the money, always.
True. Also, what I've heard is that raw milk became a problem almost a century ago when people had their own cows and started feeding them leftover scraps (possibly from the brewing industry?) not grass. So yeah, you should only drink raw milk from pastured grass-fed cows, not corn-fed ones.
Plus, medicine and science are 100 years more mature. We have antibiotics, bacteria tests, and better refrigeration. It's like telling your kid they can't go to the swimming pool now because they might get polio.
Great points. And don’t forget pharmaceutical advertisements on television. Only in US and NZ—and it wasn’t until 1997 that US regulations were relaxed. This may be his first step.
I literally did this way back in 2011-2012 with my first born. Dug up all the data I could on other country’s vaccine schedules. I somehow missed that one MMR is enough-I’m absolutely not getting my kid two now. We do the absolute bare minimum. I used to try to follow the state requirements for school as a way to be a good community member, but I have no goodwill left. The absolute garbage & authoritarianism pushed as science turned me into a selfish mama bear. No I will not risk my kid to protect others. My kids already sacrificed too many precious years to your public health project.
I have always appreciated your criticisms of the establishment, though it seems perhaps a bit reactionary to be so eager to swing the pendulum in this direction.
I imagine that banning the MMR vaccine would incur much more harm than the effects of the unsubstantiated policies surrounding covid boosters.
Just because someone has some good ideas does not mean that this negates the weight of the potential harms of their bad ideas.
Could you explain in more detail how a proposed Cluster RCT for childhood vaccines should be organized? Would there be placebo control arms that would exclude some/all of the usual state required (e.g., mmr, dtap, etc) for the duration of the trial? Ethical issues?
Or are you just suggesting varying the schedules (comparisons to European countries)?
I can’t believe we have a chance with rfk jr as health secretary. Wow. We shall see.
I don’t see any vaccines as vital.
Fluoride in water is evil.
Statins are largely evil. Chronic disease is devastating at a younger and younger age.
We need some changes.
IMO,you knocked it out of the park,yet again,Vinay! Reasonable people should be able to discuss their differences of opinion.How else can we arrive at the truth?
As a person injured by a flu vaccine, I chose to delay my newborn son's vaccination schedule. At 10 years old our healthy active helpful incredibly verbal boy received his first mmr - and immediately had a severe neurological response - becoming agitated and twitching at the "bugs crawling under his skin" while his torso rashed over. Doc said - you must have made him nervous. 2 mo later at 2nd dose, he had the same and worse - and began having trouble reading writing in school. (Previously he was doing both well, performing well-above average for his fourth grade classmates, talking about becoming a legal historian). Some days after 2nd dose he passed out at a school concert. We also began seeing extreme anxiety and other behavior changes. Doc said - can't be the vaccine! But - Wow- you must have really made him nervous about vaccination. 3 mo later - because we had to keep up with vaccine schedule! - he rec'd varicella. Again- immediately he was describing skin crawling and couldn't settle. He spent a day rocking in his chair. He was ultimately unable to stay in school that September. We had to suspend any plans to continue vaccine schedule, so school decided we were religious homeschooling and stopped answering our requests for homework. We just wanted help to keep him connected to his class while we figured out how to stop the panic attacks and body tics. Doc said- maybe talk to a PANS-Y doctor? See if he has an infection that I can't see? By December of 2019 our child couldn't leave his room or wear anything other than 1 pair of sweats and either of 2 shirts. The PANS doc found no pathogen- and said-I don't recommend any more vaccines for this child, but I can't write a medical exemption for licensing reasons. Maybe you can move? And - would you like to supply your son's DNA for my research? That'll be $2500 after our discount. Fast forward 5 years - now we're back in a PANS flare of unknown trigger - though that is the way of this permanent autoimmune condition - and we're seeing OCD and anxiety that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Doc says- how's that CBT going? But no one can unlock how to stop the autoimmune brain-on-fire. And without that solution, no amount of CBT can push back on the destruction of severe OCD. Is this "autism " ? Or shall we call it "neurodiversity" and sell t-shirts celebrating my son's new normal? Forgive my tone - but I have real impatience for the simpleton summary that "vaccines don't cause---" And from what I've read if the literature designed and paid for by vaccine patent holders...? There have been plenty of games played, but very little EBM. Please, Dr. P; can you really believe that all we parents of damaged children are crazy, ignorant or otherwise misinformed by what we've had to learn??
So sorry. Similar story here--healthy/normal 2 YO overnight PANS onset post Hep A vax. Searched for years--told couldn't be vax 'it's one of the good ones'. Didn't want to believe it myself bc always was pro-vax. Finally got dx and great MD (w/ 2 pans kids herself) started talking about aluminum adjuvant and neurotoxicity. Many months of research into schedule later I was horrified by what I learned. Pls Vinay if you are reading: all the so-called 'debunking' of MMR did not use a true placebo--neurotoxic aluminum and excipients were included in the 'control'! This is absurd to anyone familiar with the pharmacokinetics of injected aluminum (preferential affinity for fatty tissue--brain and liver--so immune system attacks brain in an attempt to remove it, causing neuroinflammation. This is among other harms of injected aluminum)--esp in the cumulative doses injected to infants or to anyone with metabolic detox impairment (so many of us these days.) The massive increase in total vaccines since 1986 is also hugely questionable. As for us, after years of trying every abx and supplement under the sun (with definite improvement but not sustained) we finally found healing with homeopathy. I was reluctant (too woo-woo)--boy was I wrong. I only wish we had done it the day he was diagnosed. Conventional medicine generally only suppresses symptoms. We must have a reckoning about the exploding vaccine schedule and what we are exposing our children too and it has to start with acknowledging that the so-called 'research debunking the harms' is massively insufficient and that we must have independent, placebo-controlled trials and must look at the schedule in totality.
We're wishing we could get our 15yr old on board with homeopathy (this cured my migraines) - But he's full-on refusal mode with this flare- we can't get him to believe anything will work. We're at a very dark doorstep with this. We know PANS kids struggle with this can’t-do-the-biology-fix-’cause-brain-on-fire, but it's an absolute nightmare living through it nonetheless. Some days I'm so exhausted that I can't even raise the curiosity to explore how little curiosity people seem to have about this….
I agree with you a lot. So much resentment was fostered by how much our debate was controlled. People say that free speech is a threat? What about shutting people up?
During the pandemic, a vast majority of people in various positions of power chose to silence and even force jabs rather than let people debate and make up their own minds.
As Vinay has already basically said, to the extent that RFK is their nightmare -- the people who wanted to silence and jab were the ones that created the context for that nightmare to emerge. Had free and open debate been allowed and even controversial points taken seriously in good faith, he would not have emerged as a power figure, I am almost entirely certain.
RFK is alright. We should look into every controversy he brings up rather than just shutting him down. Do the studies that he thinks we need to do in good faith. Answering the people's questions, rather then telling them to shut up and trust the science, is THE ONLY WAY to establish trust in science.
"Sit down and shut up" does not work. It makes things worse. Enacting the will of the people is the only way we can have a fair society, and that is exactly the opposite of what happened. Now they pay and we move.
💯!!!
"Here I think if RFK Jr wants to discourage MMR— that is a bridge too far because no one does that."
I am SHOCKED to see this printed! First, if you have been reading ANYTHING about the vaccine industry, you would be as clear as clear can be that universal acceptance of vaccination is controlled by powerful financial forces and has NOTHING to do with the merits of the vaccine. Secondly, RFK Jr. has repeated AD NAUSEAM, that he does NOT oppose ANY vaccination but is only in favor of INFORMED CONSENT about vaccines including MMR. Also, you ignore the study done by CDC which they tried to cover up showing increased of autism in black boys receiving MMR. I recommend you call up Dr. Thompson or Dr. Brian Hooker for details. Come on Vinay, you have got to do better than this!
Plus wasn't there issues with the Mumps vaccine data being falsified?
Are you suggesting that because pharma makes money on vaccines and drugs, that alone is enough to make them suspect?
From my perspective as a physician, I am open to looking behind the curtain on all of this. I was shocked when I initially heard the podcast with Tracy Hoeg (on Sensible Medicine) comparing US childhood vaccine schedule to that of Denmark. When I realized other modern, industrialized countries limited certain vaccines, it brought up questions. Why do we just accept what is being put to us with no question or debate? what are the competing values here? Do we all agree? should there be more transparency?
The backbone of medicine used to be honest and vigorous debate and discussion. over the past decade that has become problematic and suppressed by elitist physicians. I'm not completely sure why. Gender ideology and transgender medicine is a glaring example. Covid really sparked the flame and now we can't discuss much of anything. During Covid, physicians divided down the middle. "Misinformation" became the catchphrase to shut down debate. It broke along political party lines, for the most part, though some formerly liberal physicians who hold truth and data to a higher standard and aren't as affected by emotion, started to shift away from liberal democrats. The liberal physicians spent the entire pandemic wrapping themselves in the cloak of "moral correctness" and virtue signaling at any opportunity: "I'm a doctor! Don't drink bleach!" "the Unvaccinated are murderers" "I'm masking to protect YOU" "get every covid booster" and the most egregious - "vaccines don't have side effects!" Amongst all of this, I could clearly see for the first time, the direct pipeline of money to Pharma (Pfizer!) and realized how much influence these special interests have with our politicians (and therefore policies). The push for Paxlovid and vaccine were clearly being driven by financial interest.
It is also interesting that every Trump decision and pick is scrutinized in infinite detail with clearly negative bias. The current HHS secretary is not a physician or a health expert in any way, shape, or form. He is a lawyer and career politician. I don't recall ANY question or concern with that choice. From my experience of our local legislators and state government, I've come to realize that the people on the committees, who vote on major decisions that affect local medical care, have no knowledge or experience in medicine! Sobering.
I agree with Vinay. Let's have a more measured reaction to this and see how things go. At least RFK has made a career out of some focus on medical issues, health - he is raising some valid points and questions. We may not agree with every idea, and we don't know that he'll push every personal idea he's had (and there are instances where his actual beliefs have been misrepresented). There will be other voices involved. But I do think America, US medicine, US health needs some disruption.
I agree with most of your post, but wanted to point out that Becerra does have relevant experience. HHS is a large department, which covers three main terrains: 1) public health insurance programs (Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare); 2) public health and health research agencies (eg, FDA, CDC, NIH, AHRQ); and 3) TANF and other poverty programs.
Becerra has lots of experience with the first area, health insurance, as a long time member of the Ways and Means Health Subcommittee (including being ranking member), and as Attorney General for CA. He knows not just the policy issues but also the politics, which is important for that position.
It’s not unusual for HHS Secretary picks to come from the health insurance or human services side of the world. That was the case for Sebelius, for example, and many others in recent years. In fact, I think at least in recent years it would likely be more unusual to pick someone from the public health/scientific side.
That being said, I agree with your broader point that having a lawyer lead the agency is not in itself a problem.
If RFK is confirmed, I think the most important thing is that he select highly skilled and ethical scientist/physicians to lead the FDA, CDC, and NIH. Hoping Dr Prasad will be one of them!
Yes, I fully understand your point. My main point is all the pundits, liberal influencers, and many physicians who are up in arms about "he's not even a doctor!" are completely biased. The examination always goes in one direction.
My personal opinion, after much study and observation of what we're hearing lately, is that career politicians are over-represented in top tier government positions and are very insular in their way of viewing the world and the milieu they function within. Over the decades, this has led to much of the dysfunction, waste, and gridlock we are involved with. The medical field a prime example. I do think disruption is needed.
With our aging population and lower birth rates, we don't have much time to try to "fix" healthcare. Otherwise it just breaks over the next 10 years. Its already got deep cracks.
A Federal judge (an Obama appointee) in San Francisco has already told the EPA that fluoride levels in water are too high and that the evidence strongly indicates that these levels are harmful to children. He's expecting the EPA to act on his ruling. Blue cities aren't going to have a choice. I know people are talking about RFKJ in relation to this, but this ruling happened before the election and I don't understand why Vinay doesn't seem to know about it.
"Chen said he left it up to the EPA which of a number of options the agency could take in response to his ruling. They range from a warning label about fluoride's risks at current levels to taking steps towards tightening restrictions on its addition to drinking water."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/epa-fluoride-drinking-water-federal-court-ruling/
Absolutely correct. That ruling was years in the making.
And why doesn't anyone stop to ask WHY we are medicating every man woman and child with a medication that is used to treat hyperthyroidism???? We all have a thyroid and some of us are hypothyroid already.
Would we put birth control pills into the water? Would we put estrogen into the water and see what happens to the men??
There are a few people who suggested that statins be added to drinking water!
Wow. That's just crazy and disgusting.
One was a stupid British doctor. Some insist he was joking but I doubt that.
First, "conspiracy theorist" is right up there with "racist", "believe the science" and "Wolf !" It has long been a pejorative term used to dismiss and ridicule those with alternate explanations other than those force fed by the left.
I am a dentist anesthesiologist (dental specialty now ADA recognized) and graduated dental school in 1982. At that time a friend who became a lawyer laughed and said there were no cavities. I opposed the addition of fluoride to the water in Oneida, NY a few years ago where I practiced for many years - because the epidemic of caries and periodontal disease we are now seeing is caused by diet and poor oral plaque control.
Regarding raw milk, there is an argument that the calcium is more absorbable with raw milk because enzymes are destroyed in pasteurized milk.
I've tried raw milk. It's good. I don't buy a lot of it, but I can believe that it has greater nutritional value and would be a probiotic. But because there's been such a focus on safety in California, the producers are VERY VERY careful to keep everything sanitary and some even test every batch. People's fears over raw milk are not in line with reality right now.
Agreed and the government raids on the Amish farm over raw milk and other government insertion into their way of life led to the huge mobilization of this group to vote for Trump/Vance as typically this group doesn’t participate in elections.
And we are starting to see we don't even know the true motivation of many government policies. Special interest and $$ play such a huge role. We think things are always done to "protect us" - now it is clear that is not always the case. Follow the money, always.
Excellent point!
True. Also, what I've heard is that raw milk became a problem almost a century ago when people had their own cows and started feeding them leftover scraps (possibly from the brewing industry?) not grass. So yeah, you should only drink raw milk from pastured grass-fed cows, not corn-fed ones.
Plus, medicine and science are 100 years more mature. We have antibiotics, bacteria tests, and better refrigeration. It's like telling your kid they can't go to the swimming pool now because they might get polio.
Trumps administration is made up of disruptors. HHS like most of the government needs an outside agitator to shake things up.
Quick edit: do other nations THAT PROPERLY REGULATE THEIR MONEY INTEREST do it that way.
The answer is, basically, yes.
They actually test their ideas rather than being Wall Street's bitch.
Great points. And don’t forget pharmaceutical advertisements on television. Only in US and NZ—and it wasn’t until 1997 that US regulations were relaxed. This may be his first step.
I literally did this way back in 2011-2012 with my first born. Dug up all the data I could on other country’s vaccine schedules. I somehow missed that one MMR is enough-I’m absolutely not getting my kid two now. We do the absolute bare minimum. I used to try to follow the state requirements for school as a way to be a good community member, but I have no goodwill left. The absolute garbage & authoritarianism pushed as science turned me into a selfish mama bear. No I will not risk my kid to protect others. My kids already sacrificed too many precious years to your public health project.
Vinay, can you please explain this to your friends at the Free Press? They just can’t stop characterizing him as a freak and whack job.
I have always appreciated your criticisms of the establishment, though it seems perhaps a bit reactionary to be so eager to swing the pendulum in this direction.
I imagine that banning the MMR vaccine would incur much more harm than the effects of the unsubstantiated policies surrounding covid boosters.
Just because someone has some good ideas does not mean that this negates the weight of the potential harms of their bad ideas.
Have you shared this with RFK jr? And how about submitting this as an editorial?
Could you explain in more detail how a proposed Cluster RCT for childhood vaccines should be organized? Would there be placebo control arms that would exclude some/all of the usual state required (e.g., mmr, dtap, etc) for the duration of the trial? Ethical issues?
Or are you just suggesting varying the schedules (comparisons to European countries)?
Follow up on my Facebook comment below: someone suggested I link the the comments, rather than the initial post. So far that seems to have worked.
I have no idea why Facebook is like this.