Millions and millions of Americans are 100% behind every single one of these measures. Evidence doesn't matter. Efficacy doesn't matter. You are looking at broken people and in many cases broken kids.
The fact that we are still in "wear a mask if you want to" and not "take the damn mask off you lunatic" says a lot.
I was at an event this past weekend. Most people were maskless and a few wore a mask, either the classic cloth mask, an N95 type or the fake surgical masks you can get in the supermarket by the checkout. It took great self will to not tell them that they are being idiots to think that they are protecting themselves or others with their masks that have large gaps around the nose and sides. A certified Industrial Hygienist is the expert in PPE. Here is his site for podcasts that show you why masks of any kind do not work against viruses. https://rumble.com/c/PettyPodcasts
It seems to me that there are still times it's appropriate to wear a mask. As long as the mantra is "cover your cough", then if you are coughing a lot, wear a mask because coughing into your arm is not going to reduce the spread as well as a mask. And the number of people who sneeze without covering their face at all is astounding.....
VP at some point I'd love for you to chime in on the Pfizer document dump + allegations of clinical trial irregularity (fraud) as documented in the British Medical Journal.
Just completed a Memorial Day long weekend road trip through the blue ridge parkway/ Skyline drive, finishing the trip at Harpers Ferry Brewery (packed) enjoying the band and company of strangers! Not a soul worried about CoVid and people joyful to visit with one another. It was glorious! CoVid is dead to me.
My son wears an N95 when he walks through San Francisco too. He swears he'll never go back to breathing SF's air unfiltered. That's how awful the smell is between the three P's: the Pot, the Poop, and the Pee!
Agreed. Watching everyone around you, boosted or not, get same level of covid is a pretty persuasive argument against everything the hypochondriac experts have told you. At least the experts the gov and media were willing to quote. Now, prepare for the great monkeypox shift and push for what used to be considered a vaccine with unacceptable risk. As far as I can tell, there is no level of unacceptable risk according to current FDA regime. 20% increase over control in mortality, no problem. Increased excess deaths post vax campaign, piffle. Regulatory capture? How dare you, you conspiracy nut! What myo/peri, clotting, autoimmune, cancer stats? Remember thimerosal and CDC actions because that is the future. Never acknowledge risk. Quietly phase it out. Bury the studies that showed harm. Maybe at one point mission was societal health. Now, it is further pharma goals. Medicine is hierarchical like the military. If you can politicize the CDC, most docs have no alternative but to tow the line. Tired of sending billions to pharma? The Pentagon has a few imperatives for you! Just think of what all that money could have done for our country and children’s future... actually don’t, it’s nauseating.
I've been maskless in my classroom since the mandate lifted in April. Got the shots in April 2021 and didn't bother with boosters. Haven't had covid since last year, and the symptoms were so mild I wasn't even in bed for one day.
My boss and several other super-masker, triple-vaxxed people in the same office caught covid last week.
If the vaccines have created OAS then repeated Covid will eventually system issues. Hopefully the medics will start looking into how they will stop that.
I really like the sound of things fizzling out at 93-98% infected, but I wonder how that's possible given that so many people have already been infected multiple times. I know of at least 5 in my relatively tiny circle of family, friends, and acquaintances. I know one ~6yo who caught it twice just ~2/5.5 months after getting two shots (both infections were probably Omicron). The evidence seems to suggest that the vaccine is particularly short-lived in 5-11, but...the overall prevalence of stories like that is deeply concerning.
You claim "you face it with the best odds you ever will". What about the possibility of improved therapies in the future? You've made the argument that you may be better off catching it sooner rather than later when you're older, given that risk rises with age, but do you really think that outweighs advances in therapeutics? For instance, if someone catches it for the first time 2 years from now at age 52 vs. right now at age 50, it seems likely to me that the advances in therapies in 2 years would outweigh the modest increase in risk from being only 2 years older.
I'm skeptical that the Pharm companies care that much about developing therapies for diseases they can convince people to vaccinate for. The vaccines have a wider audience, much higher profit, and far less liability. I was surprised to find that my Facebook ads only started to ask for volunteers to test Pfizer therapies maybe 6-8 months ago after vaccines had been available for almost a year. Does Pfizer really have such a small staff they couldn't push both at once??
Dr V
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Millions and millions of Americans are 100% behind every single one of these measures. Evidence doesn't matter. Efficacy doesn't matter. You are looking at broken people and in many cases broken kids.
The fact that we are still in "wear a mask if you want to" and not "take the damn mask off you lunatic" says a lot.
As does, just get another booster and all will be ok .
I was at an event this past weekend. Most people were maskless and a few wore a mask, either the classic cloth mask, an N95 type or the fake surgical masks you can get in the supermarket by the checkout. It took great self will to not tell them that they are being idiots to think that they are protecting themselves or others with their masks that have large gaps around the nose and sides. A certified Industrial Hygienist is the expert in PPE. Here is his site for podcasts that show you why masks of any kind do not work against viruses. https://rumble.com/c/PettyPodcasts
It seems to me that there are still times it's appropriate to wear a mask. As long as the mantra is "cover your cough", then if you are coughing a lot, wear a mask because coughing into your arm is not going to reduce the spread as well as a mask. And the number of people who sneeze without covering their face at all is astounding.....
coughing into a mask isn't great either
VP at some point I'd love for you to chime in on the Pfizer document dump + allegations of clinical trial irregularity (fraud) as documented in the British Medical Journal.
Just completed a Memorial Day long weekend road trip through the blue ridge parkway/ Skyline drive, finishing the trip at Harpers Ferry Brewery (packed) enjoying the band and company of strangers! Not a soul worried about CoVid and people joyful to visit with one another. It was glorious! CoVid is dead to me.
“Experts have lost their minds”. Full stop.
Why stop at "20" years old. All aged humans need our mental health!
Honestly, every time I see these headlines I keep thinking, “HEAR YE, HEAR YE! Stop the spread of the common cold! Think of the children!”
I’m really sick of the unnuanced views that are so heavily platformed. We missed out on so many important discussions during this pandemic.
My son wears an N95 when he walks through San Francisco too. He swears he'll never go back to breathing SF's air unfiltered. That's how awful the smell is between the three P's: the Pot, the Poop, and the Pee!
Honestly... I’m holding onto a few masks. Salt Lake City’s air is awful in the winter. 😣
Just wondering, how did we arrive at the 93-98% figure? It certainly sounds reasonable, but I don’t know how we got there.
Agreed. Watching everyone around you, boosted or not, get same level of covid is a pretty persuasive argument against everything the hypochondriac experts have told you. At least the experts the gov and media were willing to quote. Now, prepare for the great monkeypox shift and push for what used to be considered a vaccine with unacceptable risk. As far as I can tell, there is no level of unacceptable risk according to current FDA regime. 20% increase over control in mortality, no problem. Increased excess deaths post vax campaign, piffle. Regulatory capture? How dare you, you conspiracy nut! What myo/peri, clotting, autoimmune, cancer stats? Remember thimerosal and CDC actions because that is the future. Never acknowledge risk. Quietly phase it out. Bury the studies that showed harm. Maybe at one point mission was societal health. Now, it is further pharma goals. Medicine is hierarchical like the military. If you can politicize the CDC, most docs have no alternative but to tow the line. Tired of sending billions to pharma? The Pentagon has a few imperatives for you! Just think of what all that money could have done for our country and children’s future... actually don’t, it’s nauseating.
I've been maskless in my classroom since the mandate lifted in April. Got the shots in April 2021 and didn't bother with boosters. Haven't had covid since last year, and the symptoms were so mild I wasn't even in bed for one day.
My boss and several other super-masker, triple-vaxxed people in the same office caught covid last week.
If the vaccines have created OAS then repeated Covid will eventually system issues. Hopefully the medics will start looking into how they will stop that.
Amen!!
Is there evidence that once someone gets it & recovers that subsequent infections (if they occur) will be milder?
(I was "3 doses vaxxed" when I came down with it in January. It was like a bad head cold for ~ 7days.)
I really like the sound of things fizzling out at 93-98% infected, but I wonder how that's possible given that so many people have already been infected multiple times. I know of at least 5 in my relatively tiny circle of family, friends, and acquaintances. I know one ~6yo who caught it twice just ~2/5.5 months after getting two shots (both infections were probably Omicron). The evidence seems to suggest that the vaccine is particularly short-lived in 5-11, but...the overall prevalence of stories like that is deeply concerning.
You claim "you face it with the best odds you ever will". What about the possibility of improved therapies in the future? You've made the argument that you may be better off catching it sooner rather than later when you're older, given that risk rises with age, but do you really think that outweighs advances in therapeutics? For instance, if someone catches it for the first time 2 years from now at age 52 vs. right now at age 50, it seems likely to me that the advances in therapies in 2 years would outweigh the modest increase in risk from being only 2 years older.
Do we have effective therapies for other coronaviruses?
I'm skeptical that the Pharm companies care that much about developing therapies for diseases they can convince people to vaccinate for. The vaccines have a wider audience, much higher profit, and far less liability. I was surprised to find that my Facebook ads only started to ask for volunteers to test Pfizer therapies maybe 6-8 months ago after vaccines had been available for almost a year. Does Pfizer really have such a small staff they couldn't push both at once??