Public health has lost all credibility because they have proven unable to EVER just stand up and say "We were wrong". That is because public health in the US has become nothing but a political puppet for the Democrat party with only tenuous connections to health -- all of which are driven by what will be useful politically, not what is good for health.
You should be advocating for a complete shutdown of the public health apparatus and those involved -- it has shown itself to be irredeemably corrupt. Perhaps some new, absolutely non-governmental structure could be put into place (or at least 50 structures where some might be legitimate) that might contribute to the public health. But you will not see the machinery announce that this was all a cock-up at any time in our lifetime unless there is new machinery.
And anger towards the “experts” who lee pushing this. In a sane world they would be in asylums and the parents would be recommended therapy. Sadly the innocent kids pay the price...
The schools were not closed because of the kids. 60% of the teachers are obese so they knew that they were not just at risk to get Covid but to get it bad. Maybe have to be hospitalized. The kids were collateral damage and they will never recover from what they lost given how behind America is in education. Today almost no one in the country knows grammar since the education system decided to stop diagramming sentences. People start a sentence with an objective pronoun as in "Sarah and me went to the store. " Forget usage of amount and number. People with Ivy League degrees don't know English. As we continue our decline the rest of the world will do what they have feared to do but wanted: belittle Americans.
Ha ha ha, speaking of Ivy League folks who are not necessarily the sharpest tools in the toolbox, I have this long-time friend who is a graduate of Harvard (yes, he has that always regrettable, accompanying self-assured arrogance). One Sunday while we were working together on a tough NY Times crossword puzzle he told me that the abbreviation “e.g." (which of course stands for exempli gratia) means “ergo”. Nope.
It wasn’t even that, there are no known superspreader events from schools. Kids without serious comorbidities have never been at any appreciable risk from Covid, and as their symptoms are generally mild to nonexistent, they don’t spread it much either. The teachers’ union and their ideological allies in “public health” are a disgrace to humanity.
I had covid twice my wife once and my kids never got it, or at least no symptoms. Granted the first time I had covid flu like symptoms but second time was like a bad cold. Healthy kids are not in danger but masking them is hurting them more mentally than covid would physically. I'm betting these kids are also double/triple boosted too.
"Revealing the Stark Reality of School Transmission: Clear Airborne Threat as JN.1 Asserts Global Dominance Amidst Increasing Hospitalizations"
"JN.1 is the Most Immune Evading Variant to Date."
China is taking steps to protect children in schools. We'll look at the measures they are putting in place. The west is at a strategic disadvantage and it's getting worse the longer we ignore this virus. We are on an unsustainable path but there are things we can do to change the trajectory of this situation.
Evidently a prescriptivist, the descriptivists, think so what, if the idea is communicated. Of course i cringe, because my mother taught HS English. I also passed subject A when entering the U. of California. AND, sorry, I don't understand your crit. Went is correct for all cases (singular and plural). the error is using the accusative for the subject, as you incorrectly point out. AND you don't know anyone who answers the question Who is it? With It is I. Do you?
It may very well be more harmful than helpful. Kids not being exposed to environmental pathogens, supporting natural immunity. How did we all grow up prior to 3 years ago? How did we manage without various mandates 30 years ago. This is fear based and sad.
That type of thinking is insane. Do you want your children drinking dirty water or bacteria invested, expired food? Will that build up their immune system? Think about what you are saying. Would you knowingly put yourself, your kids or anyone you care about into a room with a person who is infectious with Measles, Mumps, polio, mycoplasma pneumonia, or streptococcus pneumonia? No you would not.
Do you drink tap water. If so you're drinking dirty water. Your logic lacks reason. You build up immunity to viruses by being exposed to them. What do you think vaccines are, they are weakened or dead virus strains. Most people don't get the flu more than once a season because their body recognizes the virus and attacks it. Most reasonably healthy people who've had covid have it less severe the second time. If you're really healthy you got it and experienced no symptoms (NBA players).
My son's dearest friend pre-pandemic still mostly lives in quarantine and masks often. We hardly see them because of their fears. They all finally got covid this fall - and yet they still want to hibernate and hide and protect because they are afraid of getting it again! I tried to maintain my connection with them for my son's sake (he's 8 and lost a lot of friends during those years), but I'm giving up now that they've had covid and still are being so cautious. I can't play that game anymore.
Take a close look at this new CDC Big Cigar. I am talking about Mandy what’s-her-name. She is very disappointing to date. I anticipate more weasel-worded utterances, more jingles, more jargon, and more BS. Sad situation for ‘Murika. Not kidding.
Mandy ((Cohen)) comes across as that stupid highschool chick who was always involved in silly student government garbage... Well, turns out a double digit IQ and no moral compass can still get you pretty far.
I agree. It makes me really sad for these kids when I see this, especially when I see the parents not wearing masks but making their kids. I wish they’d put out guidance on stopping this, but I still so many pushing the mask narrative as compassion and effective, I don’t think they’d even care.
I wonder if some of the children wearing masks are doing so because they want to and their parents are letting them. They may have emotional issues that make them want to ‘hide’. I’ve read that is common in Japan where even adults want to conceal themselves.
I wonder this as well, especially when I see teenagers masking. My assumption is not that the parents are making the kid cover his/her face (parents are nowhere in sight) but that the teenagers are more comfortable with their face concealed. This is probably predictive of an anxiety disorder. It's sad that our society is happy to embrace perpetual masking.
I’m an orthodontist so I see mostly kids with their families. What you describe is the situation with nearly every family where the kid is masking and the parents aren’t. Often with the parents giving exasperated sighs when the kid immediately puts a mask back on despite knowing the appointment isn’t over and dentistry can’t be done while the patient is masked.
I hate to say it, but my guess is that making their children wear masks is only the tip of the iceberg of the ways these parents are messing up their children. I say this as a parent who has made many, many mistakes. No one is even close to perfect, but this seems like an indicator of deep trouble.
Dr. Vinay, Thank you for this contribution. We still need all of the help from those who are sane, well-informed, and with some influence and authority to be loud voices in such challenging times. Blessings to you and your family for the Holidays and New Year.
Yeah, this is very sad when I see it. I’ve even seen people making social media posts about the importance of wearing masks and how they feel discrimination for the looks they get. Yet they had a problem if I wanted to post about how I was harassed physically for not wearing one.
Some have talked about the worry about long CoVid. Although funny enough you’re now seeing people talk about “long flu” and there was at least one study recently about long flu.
Long COVID is happening at far greater numbers than any other post-viral sequelae. Society is going to pay- in tangible ways affecting everyone (healthcare shortages, disability claims, teacher shortages, the list goes on)
If we cleaned the air at schools and other congregate areas the we could slow the spread and mutation of SARS-Cov2. Letting it rip is the very definition of willful idiocy.
Except that there is no evidence that this is in fact the case. As Dr Prasad has pointed out in many studies of both masking and post-viral syndrome, there’s no evidence that masks have any effect on the spread of the virus. There are no credible studies that shows masking helps.
There’s no evidence that air quality filtering has any meaningful impact. It might be the most likely to help but there’s no credible evidence to prove this.
One of the best studies of long CoVid failed to establish a direct relationship between viral infection with CoVid and post-viral syndrome commonly referred to as long CoVid. So it’s not clear that CoVid is unique in terms of potential long CoVid effects.
"...it is not clear the vaccine works in children in any meaningful way."
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the "frameshifting" paper, because it seems at this point like the vaccines are going to cause a lifetime of harm to children.
It’s working alright. Working possible havoc in their bodies at some point. Evil. I want retribution. Plus when did children become vaccine hostages for our old arses? I’m sure grannies in the ghetto during the holocaust pushed the children out the front door so they could run out the back. Something rotten happened to humanity. Very, very rotten.
Simply fart next to them and ask them ‘can you smell that?’ There is nothing worse than a GI Bleed. No mask can stop that. Not even with peppermint oil.
Public health has lost all credibility because they have proven unable to EVER just stand up and say "We were wrong". That is because public health in the US has become nothing but a political puppet for the Democrat party with only tenuous connections to health -- all of which are driven by what will be useful politically, not what is good for health.
You should be advocating for a complete shutdown of the public health apparatus and those involved -- it has shown itself to be irredeemably corrupt. Perhaps some new, absolutely non-governmental structure could be put into place (or at least 50 structures where some might be legitimate) that might contribute to the public health. But you will not see the machinery announce that this was all a cock-up at any time in our lifetime unless there is new machinery.
"You should be advocating for a complete shutdown of the public health apparatus" - I think he does in some of his substacks.
Very well said. However, due to our government and society largely influenced by the FDA, we do not have healthcare... we have sickcare.
I feel disgust toward the masking parents, pity for their children, and hopelessness when I observe the indoctrinated teens.
And anger towards the “experts” who lee pushing this. In a sane world they would be in asylums and the parents would be recommended therapy. Sadly the innocent kids pay the price...
The schools were not closed because of the kids. 60% of the teachers are obese so they knew that they were not just at risk to get Covid but to get it bad. Maybe have to be hospitalized. The kids were collateral damage and they will never recover from what they lost given how behind America is in education. Today almost no one in the country knows grammar since the education system decided to stop diagramming sentences. People start a sentence with an objective pronoun as in "Sarah and me went to the store. " Forget usage of amount and number. People with Ivy League degrees don't know English. As we continue our decline the rest of the world will do what they have feared to do but wanted: belittle Americans.
Ha ha ha, speaking of Ivy League folks who are not necessarily the sharpest tools in the toolbox, I have this long-time friend who is a graduate of Harvard (yes, he has that always regrettable, accompanying self-assured arrogance). One Sunday while we were working together on a tough NY Times crossword puzzle he told me that the abbreviation “e.g." (which of course stands for exempli gratia) means “ergo”. Nope.
Haven't you heard? Students and faculty at Harvard don't need to know English or Latin. They only need to know plagiarism.
But to be fair, that was just duplicative language. So he was right.
It wasn’t even that, there are no known superspreader events from schools. Kids without serious comorbidities have never been at any appreciable risk from Covid, and as their symptoms are generally mild to nonexistent, they don’t spread it much either. The teachers’ union and their ideological allies in “public health” are a disgrace to humanity.
I had covid twice my wife once and my kids never got it, or at least no symptoms. Granted the first time I had covid flu like symptoms but second time was like a bad cold. Healthy kids are not in danger but masking them is hurting them more mentally than covid would physically. I'm betting these kids are also double/triple boosted too.
"Revealing the Stark Reality of School Transmission: Clear Airborne Threat as JN.1 Asserts Global Dominance Amidst Increasing Hospitalizations"
"JN.1 is the Most Immune Evading Variant to Date."
China is taking steps to protect children in schools. We'll look at the measures they are putting in place. The west is at a strategic disadvantage and it's getting worse the longer we ignore this virus. We are on an unsustainable path but there are things we can do to change the trajectory of this situation.
https://tactnowinfo.substack.com/p/revealing-the-stark-reality-of-school
Absolutely true!
Evidently a prescriptivist, the descriptivists, think so what, if the idea is communicated. Of course i cringe, because my mother taught HS English. I also passed subject A when entering the U. of California. AND, sorry, I don't understand your crit. Went is correct for all cases (singular and plural). the error is using the accusative for the subject, as you incorrectly point out. AND you don't know anyone who answers the question Who is it? With It is I. Do you?
Well, since "Public Health" was a big part of the problem I don't expect them to be part of the solution.
Yes, that would require some humility, a trait sadly not evident much in government, politics, or bureaucracy!
It may very well be more harmful than helpful. Kids not being exposed to environmental pathogens, supporting natural immunity. How did we all grow up prior to 3 years ago? How did we manage without various mandates 30 years ago. This is fear based and sad.
Fear and histrionics, itself a personality disorder!
That type of thinking is insane. Do you want your children drinking dirty water or bacteria invested, expired food? Will that build up their immune system? Think about what you are saying. Would you knowingly put yourself, your kids or anyone you care about into a room with a person who is infectious with Measles, Mumps, polio, mycoplasma pneumonia, or streptococcus pneumonia? No you would not.
Do you drink tap water. If so you're drinking dirty water. Your logic lacks reason. You build up immunity to viruses by being exposed to them. What do you think vaccines are, they are weakened or dead virus strains. Most people don't get the flu more than once a season because their body recognizes the virus and attacks it. Most reasonably healthy people who've had covid have it less severe the second time. If you're really healthy you got it and experienced no symptoms (NBA players).
The pandemic broke a lot of people. They have descended into compulsions and superstitious behaviors. Your main Doc there at USCF is one example.
My son's dearest friend pre-pandemic still mostly lives in quarantine and masks often. We hardly see them because of their fears. They all finally got covid this fall - and yet they still want to hibernate and hide and protect because they are afraid of getting it again! I tried to maintain my connection with them for my son's sake (he's 8 and lost a lot of friends during those years), but I'm giving up now that they've had covid and still are being so cautious. I can't play that game anymore.
Unfortunately this will not stop unless and until the narrative changes. These parents are mentally and emotionally challenged and are also sheeples!
Truly sad beyond belief!
Take a close look at this new CDC Big Cigar. I am talking about Mandy what’s-her-name. She is very disappointing to date. I anticipate more weasel-worded utterances, more jingles, more jargon, and more BS. Sad situation for ‘Murika. Not kidding.
Mandy ((Cohen)) comes across as that stupid highschool chick who was always involved in silly student government garbage... Well, turns out a double digit IQ and no moral compass can still get you pretty far.
I agree. It makes me really sad for these kids when I see this, especially when I see the parents not wearing masks but making their kids. I wish they’d put out guidance on stopping this, but I still so many pushing the mask narrative as compassion and effective, I don’t think they’d even care.
I wonder if some of the children wearing masks are doing so because they want to and their parents are letting them. They may have emotional issues that make them want to ‘hide’. I’ve read that is common in Japan where even adults want to conceal themselves.
I wonder this as well, especially when I see teenagers masking. My assumption is not that the parents are making the kid cover his/her face (parents are nowhere in sight) but that the teenagers are more comfortable with their face concealed. This is probably predictive of an anxiety disorder. It's sad that our society is happy to embrace perpetual masking.
I’m an orthodontist so I see mostly kids with their families. What you describe is the situation with nearly every family where the kid is masking and the parents aren’t. Often with the parents giving exasperated sighs when the kid immediately puts a mask back on despite knowing the appointment isn’t over and dentistry can’t be done while the patient is masked.
I hate to say it, but my guess is that making their children wear masks is only the tip of the iceberg of the ways these parents are messing up their children. I say this as a parent who has made many, many mistakes. No one is even close to perfect, but this seems like an indicator of deep trouble.
Dr. Vinay, Thank you for this contribution. We still need all of the help from those who are sane, well-informed, and with some influence and authority to be loud voices in such challenging times. Blessings to you and your family for the Holidays and New Year.
Yeah, this is very sad when I see it. I’ve even seen people making social media posts about the importance of wearing masks and how they feel discrimination for the looks they get. Yet they had a problem if I wanted to post about how I was harassed physically for not wearing one.
Some have talked about the worry about long CoVid. Although funny enough you’re now seeing people talk about “long flu” and there was at least one study recently about long flu.
Long COVID is happening at far greater numbers than any other post-viral sequelae. Society is going to pay- in tangible ways affecting everyone (healthcare shortages, disability claims, teacher shortages, the list goes on)
If we cleaned the air at schools and other congregate areas the we could slow the spread and mutation of SARS-Cov2. Letting it rip is the very definition of willful idiocy.
How does filtering every single school in the US make any meaningful difference to the mutation patterns in India and Mexico?
Except that there is no evidence that this is in fact the case. As Dr Prasad has pointed out in many studies of both masking and post-viral syndrome, there’s no evidence that masks have any effect on the spread of the virus. There are no credible studies that shows masking helps.
There’s no evidence that air quality filtering has any meaningful impact. It might be the most likely to help but there’s no credible evidence to prove this.
One of the best studies of long CoVid failed to establish a direct relationship between viral infection with CoVid and post-viral syndrome commonly referred to as long CoVid. So it’s not clear that CoVid is unique in terms of potential long CoVid effects.
"...it is not clear the vaccine works in children in any meaningful way."
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the "frameshifting" paper, because it seems at this point like the vaccines are going to cause a lifetime of harm to children.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06800-3
It’s working alright. Working possible havoc in their bodies at some point. Evil. I want retribution. Plus when did children become vaccine hostages for our old arses? I’m sure grannies in the ghetto during the holocaust pushed the children out the front door so they could run out the back. Something rotten happened to humanity. Very, very rotten.
Simply fart next to them and ask them ‘can you smell that?’ There is nothing worse than a GI Bleed. No mask can stop that. Not even with peppermint oil.