This is hilarious, thanks for the laugh! I almost thought it was real at first glance, given the current publication trends. Merry Christmas and happy holidays!
Took me longer than I'd like to admit to realize this was satire. Stating the study was from Canada was a nice touch, somehow that made it a lot more plausible.
I was fooled until Bobby Bob’s quote following Tommy Tom’s. Thanks for this satire.
At the risk of being a Debbie downer people who made a personal choice not to vaccinate have been unfairly vilified. And now the silence from those who perpetuated it is remarkable and should not be forgotten until amends are made. Reparations should be made: Hire back those who lost their jobs on a false premise that vaccines will end the pandemic. They have not. As I look at data and all the variants with spike mutations that elude antibodies I wonder if the vaccines are actually prolonging the pandemic. We have never mass vaccinated during an active pandemic before. I hope some honest research is being done on this so we learn.
Wow. You’ve convinced me... up til now ive remained unvaxxed against covid and i had natural infection in aug 21. But this study has tipped my mental scales. Im going to CVS right now to get all 4 covid shots at once and the bivalent booster! ;)
Being Canadian, when I first read “CooperDale”, I thought, “Who the f*ck are they?!” :-). This was hilarious. I do have an ancestor whose name was Thomas Thomas. Seriously. I think we have a pandemic of bad research.
This “study” makes just as much sense as the auto insurance one, so thanks for emphasizing the foolishness. I was never vaccinated, due to pretty debilitating neurologic toxicity I experienced after a prior flu shot, and decision not to take that risk with these. My first natural infection was in January of this year. Surprisingly, no fender benders, my teeth are intact, and I’m happy to report that I’m still able to count to 10 with my fingers. 😉
Mask mandates are back in Oakland through March 31. All city operated buildings (eg libraries) are covered.
My nephew has never seen his 2nd grade teacher’s face. She’s about 30.
Nor has he ever seen his rabbi or Hebrew school teachers faces. Temple Sinai in Oakland is basically a place where people go and sing muffled, unintelligible songs through masks.
You are off by a little over 4 months on the correct day to publish this item. However, on the general trend of this conversation about scientist and bad uses of statistics I present the mother of all studies - http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations . Really worth having in ones back pocket when someone with whom one is having conversation is deeply commited to the idea the correlation is cause .
The saddest saddest thing about this is my clicking on it because I actually thought there might be such a study. However, as far as the driving, just drove four hours on an icy highway that was closed until an hour before I got on an on-ramp this a.m. and somehow arrived at home, unvaxxed and with no crashes. I was SO worried!!
Pretty funny Vinay. Pretty obviously non-causal relationship of COVID vaccination to car crashes, but I wonder what the unobserved variable might be. If I understand the analysis correctly the relationship persists if rurality is controlled. While I enjoy watching curling, I don't think that makes me enough of an expert in Canadian culture to understand if rurality should have been a strong mediator as it would be in the US. Perhaps it is some kind of propensity to anger/low agreeableness has a causal relation to vaccine refusal and car crashes? I can't quite translate the effect size of the relative risk into more usual measures of association, but it would be very strange for a single behavior such as vaccine refusal to correlate much higher than .30 with another single behavior such as a car crash. Although I suppose you could suggest that these are actually multiply observed behaviors as on any given day you could get vaccinated or have a crash.
More seriously, I think part of the problem with these types of observational data is that some people have trouble imagining the wacky possible mediators that cause the observed relationship. Humans are weird and surprising and personality, preferences, and predispositions really do exist and matter. I think most epi/observational research would be improved by including not only SES measures but big 5 personality measures.
This is hilarious, thanks for the laugh! I almost thought it was real at first glance, given the current publication trends. Merry Christmas and happy holidays!
Took me longer than I'd like to admit to realize this was satire. Stating the study was from Canada was a nice touch, somehow that made it a lot more plausible.
I was fooled until Bobby Bob’s quote following Tommy Tom’s. Thanks for this satire.
At the risk of being a Debbie downer people who made a personal choice not to vaccinate have been unfairly vilified. And now the silence from those who perpetuated it is remarkable and should not be forgotten until amends are made. Reparations should be made: Hire back those who lost their jobs on a false premise that vaccines will end the pandemic. They have not. As I look at data and all the variants with spike mutations that elude antibodies I wonder if the vaccines are actually prolonging the pandemic. We have never mass vaccinated during an active pandemic before. I hope some honest research is being done on this so we learn.
Wow. You’ve convinced me... up til now ive remained unvaxxed against covid and i had natural infection in aug 21. But this study has tipped my mental scales. Im going to CVS right now to get all 4 covid shots at once and the bivalent booster! ;)
Heh. Enjoyed this one. But Poe's law was in effect at first: I thought the study was real. That is how awful things got. Well done.
Being Canadian, when I first read “CooperDale”, I thought, “Who the f*ck are they?!” :-). This was hilarious. I do have an ancestor whose name was Thomas Thomas. Seriously. I think we have a pandemic of bad research.
This “study” makes just as much sense as the auto insurance one, so thanks for emphasizing the foolishness. I was never vaccinated, due to pretty debilitating neurologic toxicity I experienced after a prior flu shot, and decision not to take that risk with these. My first natural infection was in January of this year. Surprisingly, no fender benders, my teeth are intact, and I’m happy to report that I’m still able to count to 10 with my fingers. 😉
Mask mandates are back in Oakland through March 31. All city operated buildings (eg libraries) are covered.
My nephew has never seen his 2nd grade teacher’s face. She’s about 30.
Nor has he ever seen his rabbi or Hebrew school teachers faces. Temple Sinai in Oakland is basically a place where people go and sing muffled, unintelligible songs through masks.
Sad state of affairs when satire and real headlines can EASILY be confused...great job, VP. This was good for a Christmas laugh!
I laughed so hard! Which is no longer an easy feat these days! Thank you for that great take on the absurdity of our times.
Thank you for the laughs Vinay
What does it say about our current state of affairs that I actually believed they would say these things 🤣
You are off by a little over 4 months on the correct day to publish this item. However, on the general trend of this conversation about scientist and bad uses of statistics I present the mother of all studies - http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations . Really worth having in ones back pocket when someone with whom one is having conversation is deeply commited to the idea the correlation is cause .
The saddest saddest thing about this is my clicking on it because I actually thought there might be such a study. However, as far as the driving, just drove four hours on an icy highway that was closed until an hour before I got on an on-ramp this a.m. and somehow arrived at home, unvaxxed and with no crashes. I was SO worried!!
Vinay,the opportunities for satire are increasing exponentially, you will have to be up to then task !
Pretty funny Vinay. Pretty obviously non-causal relationship of COVID vaccination to car crashes, but I wonder what the unobserved variable might be. If I understand the analysis correctly the relationship persists if rurality is controlled. While I enjoy watching curling, I don't think that makes me enough of an expert in Canadian culture to understand if rurality should have been a strong mediator as it would be in the US. Perhaps it is some kind of propensity to anger/low agreeableness has a causal relation to vaccine refusal and car crashes? I can't quite translate the effect size of the relative risk into more usual measures of association, but it would be very strange for a single behavior such as vaccine refusal to correlate much higher than .30 with another single behavior such as a car crash. Although I suppose you could suggest that these are actually multiply observed behaviors as on any given day you could get vaccinated or have a crash.
More seriously, I think part of the problem with these types of observational data is that some people have trouble imagining the wacky possible mediators that cause the observed relationship. Humans are weird and surprising and personality, preferences, and predispositions really do exist and matter. I think most epi/observational research would be improved by including not only SES measures but big 5 personality measures.