Medical school education is as much about teaching medical knowledge and science as it is about teaching someone how to think and behave as a professional. It is great to have opinions and to be passionate about them. It is wonderful to take that passion to a protest or rally or to raise money for a cause. It is not professional to behav…
Medical school education is as much about teaching medical knowledge and science as it is about teaching someone how to think and behave as a professional. It is great to have opinions and to be passionate about them. It is wonderful to take that passion to a protest or rally or to raise money for a cause. It is not professional to behave this way in a forum attended by presumably professional individuals.
This type of behavior, if exhibited in the hospital or clinic, will result in professional discipline some day. The medical students might as well learn that now - it will not be okay to yell at a patient or spout political ideology to staff working with them in the near future. The leadership of the school needs to help them to understand the consequences of acting out in this fashion - before they wind up dismissed from a job.
100% agree. What has happened to the definition of professionalism? I don’t think they know what that actually means in a broad, real world, dealing with patients way.
Once again, thank you, Vinay, for bringing this incident to our attention. The students, if they actually were students, definitely deserve some sort of negative consequence as this was neither the time nor the place for such behavior. I completely agree that the AMA and other professional organizations have become politicized and captured by pharmaceutical companies, food manufacturers, and other special interests who don’t really care about improving health outcomes of our population.
I’m hoping the pendulum will swing back and schools will lead by example and actually teach professional demeanor and behavior.
1). I am not certain that this type of behavior would bring discipline from the hierarchy at my institution, so long as the outrage was in line with those who were calling the shots.
2.) To be a professional means you are paid a fee to complete a job, regardless of what is involved in completion of the job. When I decided to pursue a career in clinical medicine/surgery, I thought that was nonnegotiable. I see very few more recently graduated “professionals“ see it the same way. In fact, all evidence points to the contrary. I recently had a partner beside himself that he would have to take two weekends of call in a month because someone else was on vacation, and that amount of call was too stressful and affecting his personal life.
So the available evidence suggests that what is currently getting taught in medical school, may not be similar to what was taught in the past.
Medical school education is as much about teaching medical knowledge and science as it is about teaching someone how to think and behave as a professional. It is great to have opinions and to be passionate about them. It is wonderful to take that passion to a protest or rally or to raise money for a cause. It is not professional to behave this way in a forum attended by presumably professional individuals.
This type of behavior, if exhibited in the hospital or clinic, will result in professional discipline some day. The medical students might as well learn that now - it will not be okay to yell at a patient or spout political ideology to staff working with them in the near future. The leadership of the school needs to help them to understand the consequences of acting out in this fashion - before they wind up dismissed from a job.
100% agree. What has happened to the definition of professionalism? I don’t think they know what that actually means in a broad, real world, dealing with patients way.
Once again, thank you, Vinay, for bringing this incident to our attention. The students, if they actually were students, definitely deserve some sort of negative consequence as this was neither the time nor the place for such behavior. I completely agree that the AMA and other professional organizations have become politicized and captured by pharmaceutical companies, food manufacturers, and other special interests who don’t really care about improving health outcomes of our population.
I’m hoping the pendulum will swing back and schools will lead by example and actually teach professional demeanor and behavior.
The pendulum will swing back. These kids are tomorrow's leaders. It behooves all of us to listen to them.
Is there no place in "professionalism" for ethics?
1). I am not certain that this type of behavior would bring discipline from the hierarchy at my institution, so long as the outrage was in line with those who were calling the shots.
2.) To be a professional means you are paid a fee to complete a job, regardless of what is involved in completion of the job. When I decided to pursue a career in clinical medicine/surgery, I thought that was nonnegotiable. I see very few more recently graduated “professionals“ see it the same way. In fact, all evidence points to the contrary. I recently had a partner beside himself that he would have to take two weekends of call in a month because someone else was on vacation, and that amount of call was too stressful and affecting his personal life.
So the available evidence suggests that what is currently getting taught in medical school, may not be similar to what was taught in the past.